Mueller: Trump Could Be Charged with Obstruction of Justice After Leaving Office

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  1. Bluesguy

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    In the election in which they were cast and no where else. That means in your state.
     
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    We are even more fractured and divided now than we were during the Vietnam War -- and that is sayig a LOT! We thoroughly HATE each other now, and we've divided into two very different 'camps' which have almost nothing in common with each anymore. It will get even worse.

    I just hope this situation doesn't turn into a "Weimar Republic" scenaro like Germany had all during the 1920's. It seems that we are going down that road and a parallel road that leads to the horrors described so vividly by George Orwell in his book, "1984".

    Most of my life is over, and I don't feel a bit bad about that. The ones I really feel sorry for are all the poor Millennials who are just now becoming about 40 years old. They will truly suffer "the tortures of the damned" before this trainwreck finally ends....
     
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    And that's after Dems have been trying to stack electoral college by counting illegal immigrats in the census too..... Talk about trying to disenfranchise tax Paying citizens by diluting their voting power
     
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    fake news, Texas counts them too and they have many many illegals
     
  5. FreshAir

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    give it up, Trump lost the popular vote, that is just a fact

    Trump supporters will be fine if they admit their cult leader lost the popular vote... he is still president
     
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    Mueller explained that too.... he did not feel it would be fair to declare Trump guilty if he could not indict as he could not defend himself in court

    Trust me, I wish Mueller would give his opinion... but sadly he refuses too - he just says read the report
     
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    Not fake news basic facts ..... Lol
     
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    Mueller said in his report, in the conference call and in his testimony that was not a factor in anything. Which is all moot since the OSC did not report a crime to the DOJ and requested they make the final determination. That determination was made by the AG, the DAG and the OLC, no charge of obstruction of justice. Why do you keep ignoring that? There is no criminal referral against President Trump before the Congress. If they decide to impeach him on something it's not something the OSC or DOJ found and referred to them. So what is their basis for it?
     
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    Give it up there is no THE popular vote never has been you are engaged in folly thinking tallying up the 51 elections is an accurate reflection of public opinion or what would have been the results of a national popular election.
     
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    But nothing preventing them from doing what the Special Counsel law requires and that is reporting to the AG the crimes they discovered and the evidence to support those crimes and will be issued as an indictment once Trump would leave office. Either they report why they want to move forward with prosecution or why they are declining.

    You and those on the anti-Trump side have been saying for two years just wait till Mueller charges Trump with crimes. Were you lying? The Democrats were all saying it. The MSM were all saying were they all lying. I mean it you knew all along he would not even be able to say crimes were committed and would never be able to prosecute Trump so that makes Trump guilty of something even though no evidence of crime or assertion of a crime?
    This thing is so convoluted as you guys keeping twisting yourselves into knots trying to STILL say Trump committed some crime.
     
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    Where 538 people vote.
     
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    That is utter nonsense, first his report is a confidential report to the AG, if he found crimes then he was required to report them to the AG. Any President indicted after leaving office can defend themselves in court. Clinton had felony charges hanging over him the last years of his term in office.

    Mueller declined to prosecute left it up to the AG and the AG and the DAG and the OLC said there was no obstruction of justice to persue, end of story. Why do you keep ignoring the DOJ made the final determination?
     
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    The obvious conclusion is Mueller did not do the job he was appointed to do....ask yourself why?
     
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    Mueller -can't- declare Trump guilty.
     
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    he could give his opinion, but he refuses too, but we all know he thinks Trump is, as he said if he thought he was innocent he would of said so, and he did not say so
     
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    but he did, it's in the report, he just could not indict the President, he expects congress to handle that
     
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    No his mandate was to determine if he committed a crime, he did not on obstruction.
     
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    And thus, you agree: Mueller cannot declare Trump guilty.
    By "we all", you mean you, and by "know", you mean "making a bigoted, hyper-partisan assumption"

    Mueller could not make a factual determination of corrupt intent, and thus, there can be no obstruction of justice.
     
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    Wonder what Obama is thinking after democrats claim a President can be charged after leaving office. After all, he weaponized government against his political opponents.
     
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    Sure, Trump could be indicted. But we could indict a ham sandwich. That doesn’t prove anything.
     
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    Nobody cares. Try reading our constitution it will tell you how our republic elects a president. You however run the risk of actually leaving the dnc once you realize how great a threat they are to our constitution
     
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    his mandate was to investigate the Russia connection, he also was not allowed to indict Trump, he was to investigate and pass that on to congress if need be
     
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    your straw-man is a fail, Trump lost the popular vote, that is just a fact, Trump is still President just the same - Sad!
     
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    The popular vote is not relevant in a Constitutional Republic. Senators were not voted in by the people until the 17th Amendment was passed in the early 1900's.
     

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