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  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    You have no idea at all

    Middle class and below paid 9 billion more in taxes this year.

    The uranium is here in the US, was owned by a Canadian company, required the approval of three country (including 9 US agencies) (Clinton has no signatory authority about it at all).

    You need to start reading.
     
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    NOBODY can change The Constitution.

    Republicans control too many seats in Senate/Congress and too many state legislatures.
     
  3. JakeStarkey

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    That is going to change when the NPV goes online and the SCOTUS is reformed (no more gerrymandering).
     
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    They're ideologues or celebrities. Get people who know how the economy works.
     
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    Their support of right-to-work legislation.
    The Russian play for Uranium One was about keeping up the price of uranium.
     
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    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    No, they predicted she would win the popular vote. People took the popular vote data and projected her winning the Electoral College.
    No, the polls were correct. She won the popular vote.
    There were plenty of social media stuff.
    It was not an Electoral College landslide.
    BS.
     
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    LangleyMan sweeps the thread.
     
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    Actually they predicted Hillary would win the Presidency. IE: The electoral vote. Because that is how the Presidency is won. Not by popular vote, but by the electoral vote. Plus there is some controversy on exactly how Hillary got those extra popular vote numbers. Some believe that illegal immigrants voted, which is a possibility since citizenship is not checked for in our voting system...something which even Obama admitted to. And some experts believe that Google swung around 2.5 million votes in favor of Hillary via manipulation of their algorithms (whether intentionally or not is what is at question).


    Depends on your definition of a landslide I guess. :shrug:

    Trump won 74 more EC Votes than Hillary. Going by that it was a landslide imo. However if you look at it as how many EC votes Trump got over the amount needed, which is only 36 since only 270 is needed then it wasn't a landslide. So really its subjective opinion on whether Trump won by a electoral college landslide. Just depends on your POV.
     
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    It is a long list of left wing radical activists including DP strategists and officials. It certainly shows the balance you find on Fox.
    Do you really think none of them "know how the economy works?

    If so I may have to agree with you on that point.
     
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    They predicted that she would be the next president and that Trump would lose, and all of them know very well that the national popular vote is irrelevant.

    In fact, the MSM has confessed its error.

    “After projecting a relatively easy victory for Hillary Clinton with all the certainty of a calculus solution, news outlets like The New York Times, The Huffington Post and the major networks scrambled to provide candid answers.

    With a new administration about to take shape in Washington, news executives tried to take stock of their mistakes and fix them on the fly, lest the fast-moving story leave them behind again.”
    THE NEW YORK TIMES, News Outlets Wonder Where the Predictions Went Wrong, Jim Rutenberg, MEDIATOR, NOV. 9, 2016.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/...er-where-the-predictions-went-wrong.html?_r=0
     
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    Try reading again.

    A russian company bought a Canadian company. They shipped the yellow cake uranium to Canada via a third party then it was shipped to Europe. It is not all in the united states.

    My wife and i made 39000 last year , the most we have ever made and our tax bill was mych lower.
    Maybe that 9 billion of increased taxes is due to the fact that a greater proportion of the middle and lower classes were actually working last year.
     
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    The Democrats sure seem to want to try.
     
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    Unions are anti worker, they get greedy and force manufacturers out of business or out of the country.
    Why should someone be forced to join a union to work for a company?
    Right to work is not anti worker thats just your spin.

    Why would anyone want Russians in control of American nuclear raw material?
    That's cozying up to putin if anything is..
     
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    All know that the polls said Clinton would win the PV, which happened

    Trump won the EC, a flukish victory, which will not happen again next year.

    He will lose more than 400 EC votes, and MORE THAN 18 MILLION will vote against him than for him.
     
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    I am glad you made more money, but the working and middle classes paid more even though not earning significantly more. The increase in new workers was not significant at all in terms of the 9 billion. Most of the uranium is in the US. And you can't show Clinton had anything sinister to do with the sale.
     
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    Allowing Russians to own American nuclear assets is in itself sinister because Russia is sinister, but that's not my point. My point is that the current administration is no more cozying up to Russia as the previous one which is the accusation i was responding to.

    Have your own opinion about taxes, i made more and paid less, i doubt I'm the only one.

    And thank God the Obamacare taxes didn't get me again.
     
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  17. JakeStarkey

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    Talk to the governments of Canada and the US who disagree with you. No effort has been made by the Trump administration to abrogate the sale. Yes, Trump has been far more cozy with Trump and Russia than did Obama and Clinton.

    Your opinion about taxes is just that. Mine is based on absolute numbers.

    I agree with you on the Mandate as it was done was done poorly.

    Medicare for All or Single Payer will fix that, drive down costs significantly, and give you access to good health care for good costs.
     
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    I do agree our medical system needs a complete revamping. I'm not smart enough to know the best way to do it. I think it might be such a complex issue that no one really knows what will happen with any of the proposed solutions. There are bound to be unforeseen consequences to each of them.
    Getting insurance companies out of the equation is a good first step though, i think.

    Absolute numbers on taxes huh? From who? Media Matters or Vox?

    I don't think Trump or Clinton should be doing any business with Russia or Russian companies.
     
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    I agree about not carrying any water for Russia, not helping it in any way.
     
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    I agree, sort of. MSNBC is definitely not a news channel. Do they even try to be? Much of FOX is a White House propaganda arm with a few saving graces - Bret Baier, Chris Wallace, Shepherd Smith, and a couple others deliver the news and commentary "straight." Fifteen years ago, CNN was great but those days are long gone. ABC, CBS, and NBC have their days, take your pick. Ninety percent of social media "news sources" are a dirty joke. Being digital, you can't even wrap dead fish in them.
     
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    How about a liberal economist? Trump has done nothing to fix our long-term economic problems.
     
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    Then you have Austan Goolsbee, a major Obama advisor and a regular guest on Fox News. Who else would you like to see?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austan_Goolsbee
     
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    No, they didn't because the polls weren't large enough at the state level. Media outlets used the polls to hype the election.
    Total Trumpian BS. There's little evidence of illegal voting. Why would an illegal immigrant risk getting caught?
    Before having an opinion, you might check the results of other elections.

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    If Democrats nominate a moderate, Trump will probably lose.
     
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    No, they predicted she would win the election.
    Then the media, the MSM anyway, are just not too bright. The popular vote, apart from the losers, is meaningless.
    The MSM was cleverly used by Trump and they still haven't learned the lesson.
    In fact it was, considering the media predictions. 303-227 is significant, especially since Hillary spent all the money and had the media covering her back. Their hurt feelings once they realized Trump won was priceless.
     
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    lol, who cares about popular vote?? that doesn't mean anything. If we used popular vote, most of the country would become jaded and secede.
     
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