Gun control - Why punish the law abiding rather than the criminals?

Is that what the NRA suggests?

 

I’m not living in fear of drunk drivers. Or gang bangers. Or lightning. Or falling coconuts. If you or anybody else is living in fear of mass shooters you need a reality check.

See a doc. You’re punishing yourself.

 

The NRA generally recommends people pick their own method of defense.

 

What's the difference between that and what I said they said?

If you're not armed like the NRA suggests, what other "defense" is there?

 

So do you carry a gun 24/7...or do you not?

 

They do?

Can you link me to that?

 

I have never found where they recommend a specific method of defense for everyone or a particular weapon.

 

My carrying or not carrying is irrelevant to other people’s irrational fears.

My work requires I have a firearm close by. Today I carried a suppressed AR-15 most of the day. Turned out to be a waste of energy. The coyotes had eaten half the ewe they killed last night and weren’t hungry enough to return. Generally I only carry an AR in the spring and a it’s a handgun off body the rest of the year. Can’t carry on body because I’d end up with a broken hip or pelvis.

I hope you are able to sleep knowing I’m out here and armed.

BANG! Ha, made you jump.

 

The laws of the 1790s, including the Constitution rights were made for the times they lived in and their way of life. The majority of the founding fathers were slave owners, if the people didn’t own a defined acreage of land they couldn’t vote and women, on taking their marriage vows all they owned became their husband’s property etc.
The paradox is that they didn’t need to authorise ordinary citizens to own a firearm as along with all nations at that time, there was no laws against the right to own a gun. But firearms at that time were hand made and expensive, way beyond what the common citizen could afford.

What the hell has Communism got to do with the subject we are engaged with? Marx and Engels weren’t born until 60odd yrs after the War of Independence. Try to keep up.

 

In truth it is the answer to those who seek to restrict firearms from the general public, and who choose to dismiss out of hand the real-life examples of those who have actually needed firearms for their own defense.

 

Who exactly is the "we" that is being referred to in the above statement, that allows yourself to speak with such authority when addressing others?

 

What is the alternative being proposed on the part of yourself?

Pray tell, exactly what firearm-related restrictions can actually prevent such from occurring? Not merely in a hypothetical sense where the proposal will operate in a vacuum, but in the real world where the proposal will have to contend with unforeseen factors, such as those who run the existing system simply not doing their job as they are supposed to do, where the public are left on their own?

 

Socialism = Big Bad Government. The FF crafted the COTUS to prevent government, a "necessary evil" from evolving into another Big Bad Government.

The American Revolution began when a tyrannical government attempted to seize firearms from the colonists. They also bombarded and burned American cities before the DOI was signed.

Modern socialist tyrants have been an even greater threat to humanity than King George.
Nothing about the "progressive era" diminishes the need for the 2nd amendment and the right to bear arms.

 

Bingo. I have a friend who owns an assault style weapon. I asked him to explain why he owns one and he said because it is his right. I asked him whether the right of the public to be safe from the danger these weapons pose should supersede his perceived right since it is within the government's power to ban certain weapons. That's when the rationally functioning part of his brain shuts down and he gives an answer roughly approximating the "cold dead hands" reply. Roughly translated it means he couldn't care less about the body count. The law says he can have the gun and he damn well is going to have it............no matter the consequences to society. IOW, the NRA's propaganda works.

 

Or it could be that he just likes it and does not think it affects anyone else as do most gun owners. I have over a dozen, mostly inherited. Owning them affects no one else. The point of this whole thread is why is the majority of gun owners punished because of the abuse of a small minority?

 

67% of the US wants an assault weapons ban and they have figured out what an assault weapon is.

 

When you get through the smokescreen gun control advocates are not primarily interested in crime or mass killings. They are interested in people not having firearms.... period. If along the way their taking everyone's guns also happens to reduce crime and mass shootings (it won't, but for the sake of discussion......) they would not be unhappy.

 

That's what laws and rules and regulations are for....that's how they work.

Most people try to be "law-abiding".

The "small minority" is responsible for all the endless laws and rules and courts and lawyers and judges.

We all have to take our shoes off at the airport, we all are punished, because of one jerk.

 

Well their site is covered with stuff about self-defense and guns.

NRA's WAYNE LAPIERRE: The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.

 

So it's rational to carry a gun 24/7, right?

That's what you recommend to everyone?

 

Why are people interested in "taking away" guns for no reason?

 

And so that's a rational fear?

 

Do you carry a gun 24/7?

 

Most laws do not penalize the the majority because of the minority.

But they do not say everyone should have a gun or that everyone who has a guns should have a certain kind of gun.

 

Sure they do. I can't jaywalk because some numbnuts didn't look both ways.

Their basic creed and everything they stand for suggests that without a gun, you can't stop a bad guy with a gun.

Who shouldn't have or doesn't need a gun? When is it okay to not have a gun? And what sort of gun is best?

Their whole thing is about how awesome guns are, and they don't have answers for those questions? That's pretty lame.