Sheriff called parking spot shooting legal under ‘stand your ground’ laws. Prosecutors disagreed.

The thug remained in a position to threaten his victim until he was shot.
Clear self defense - Daniel Shaver was justifiably shot five times and killed in self defense even though the threat existed only in the officers mind.

 

He has now, been convicted. He hasn't been sentenced yet.

 

In fact, the thug was standing over his victim and his hands are at his side - the same position from which he launched his previous attack. It is an aggressive stance - especially for someone staring down his victim and a gun.

BLM: "Hands Up Don't Shoot!"

 

Your image was not taken at time of firing.

 

He wasn't standing over him. If you walk out the store and a man is cursing and yelling at your wife what is your reaction?

 

I'm sorry, did you think the image proved your point? Or that you have to have your hands up to not be a fair game target?

1) As the other poster points out, that's not the time of the shot;
2) There is no such bright line rule and assuming that there is will land you in the pokey like Drejka.
3) The image you offer clearly shows the dead man several feet away. He's not standing over Drjeka.
4) It is fitting that you cite BLM's slogan of an action that did not actually occur that they offered because it better fit their narrative than the truth.

 

I think the use of police departments to keep the peace is a failed model.

Nevertheless, sworn law enforcement officers are professionals according to the dictionary definition of the word.

 

The one McGlockton created when he violently physically assaulted him. He thought he was still threatened.

Depends.

There is nothing honest about purposely parking in a handicapped space and teaches your kids the wrong lessons.

 

Oh, I might have knocked him on his ass, but as soon as I saw someone I had beaten to the pavement start to draw a gun I would react like the thug in the video reacted to actually being shot - a reaction that probably saved him from being shot several more times. See Daniel Shaver video for how that works. They shot him on his knees 5 times.

I am not always hostile to thugs and thuggish behavior. Some of my better friends have been thugs. I miss a few of them.

 

No the one Drejka started when he started cursing at his spouse and kids.

On what?

What lesson was Drejka teaching the kids when he was verbal cursing at their mother? Since you keep speaking on teaching children.

 

Watch the video and you will see that everyone else got far away from the shooter before the **** was fired.

Beyond that the thug managed to get far away from the shooter as soon as he was shot.
Which is why he was not shot again while retreating.

See Daniel Shave video which shows how many times you can be shot in self defense to eliminate a perceived threat.

 

Hmmm. Drejka wasn't beaten to the pavement and I guess you consider Drejka an upstanding citizen cursing out a mother in front of her kids, but a man trying to protect his family is a thug. Smfh.

 

Yes, it was taken before he was shot, when he should have either had his hands up or been running away like everyone else who saw the gun.

 

Good. I hope they throw the book at him.

 

IMO, Drejka was a jackass. I already told you I might have knocked him on his ass.

Now tell me - what would you do if after you knocked a jackass on his ass and the jackass reached for a gun?

 

Once he has pulled the gun and you don't have one there really isn't anything you can do.

 

I don't know why he keeps repeating this. The video, account from authorities, etc all show that he was backing away when he was shot. He was not standing over him, he was not assuming an aggressive stance, none of that.

 

That wasn't a physical assault.

The circumstances and whether I admit I made a mistake and assure him I will pay more attention and not get into a verbal altercation with him for one thing.

I don't know that he has any but if he does they were not there to witness what occurred.

And why?

Because we end up with more criminals.

Mother, Daughter Arrested After Violent Crab Leg Theft
https://news.yahoo.com/mother-daughter-arrested-violent-crab-222723864.html

 

Have you ever had a gun unexpectedly pulled on you at that range?

Unless you have, you can't be certain how you would react. One perfectly reasonable reaction is, "Oh ****. I'm not going to make any sudden movements at all."

 

That's because I know what would have happened to him had he not had the gun on him.

It's just unfortunate for him that he wasn't either faster on the draw, or much slower.

Incidentally, he had a CCW for 25 years according to the reports I read.

Clearly in this incident he maintained his distance from the vehicle and never drew his firearm until he was attacked. He also only fired one time.

We'll see how the appeal goes.

 

The world is safer for parking lot attackers and people who want to park illegally.

Wonder if the knock-out "game" will make a comeback.

 

As it stands now? Yes it is. It can be remedied by 1) changing the Fraternal Order of Police into a guild that is also an insurance company for malpractice, sort of like the American Bar (or state bars) but able to provide insurance (and the sole provider for same since this is a public sector thing not private). 2) make police professionals by making them liable under the professional standard of torts and remove civil immunity.
The rest will shake out on its own as the bad cops cause internal monetary troubles with their now no longer civilly immune misconduct, for the entirety of the group. This will encourage the group to drop the *******ned hammer on them and clean house which they currently have exactly zero incentive to do.

For bonus points 3) force prosecutors to publish lists of cops they have trouble with (you can see cases on this working through california courts just now) rather than withhold them, putting still more feet to the fire.

 

The unconscious reaction for someone who is not interested in altercation is raising your hands.

 

Has anyone ever had their firearm taken away and been killed with their own gun?

Clearly there is something they can do.

 

Except that's not the standard for no longer being fair game. You don't have to have hands up or be fleeing at speed.
You have to no longer be the imminent threat you were, which McGlockton was not just as soon as the gun was produced as is absolutely crystal clear from the tape and eyewitness testimony.