Sheriff called parking spot shooting legal under ‘stand your ground’ laws. Prosecutors disagreed.

This is why they prosecute Bob for having a barrel that is 1" too short and the gangs in Chicago still have all their guns.

Path of least resistance.

 

Almost all of us would avoid any behavior that would tempt an armed police officer to shoot us, but there are enough idiots out there to guarantee that armed police are attacked everyday.

 

Almost certainly why they prosecuted Drejka. It avoided another Ferguson

 

You realize that glass was all that was between them, right? You realize her kids were in the car and she can, as stated perhaps 5 times now, get out of the car in her own defense without voiding defense of others on her behalf right?

Hey man, you're the one saying use of force is like tag so maybe you might want to turn that comment on yourself eh?

No, he stopped his imminent assault when presented with the threat of deadly force making it a crime to escalate further. Which is why Drejka is in prison right now getting his ******* stretched out.

 

Except he did, you see him fall back a step and come to a halt wherein he is still. Also called "freezing".
Oh I'm sorry vman, there is no tee ball in discussions like this one. So if you can't hit the softballs maybe you should sit this one out ok champ?

 

Well lookie here! A poster admits he was wrong about the professional standard. I'm proud of you Ddyad, it takes courage to face such a mistake, own up to it and move on.

 

OH really? Cars have glass in their doors. I think you're right.

You're going to sit there and say she was in imminent danger when she was mutually engaging in a yelling match, was protected by the vehicle, the guy never even touched the car, and she could have driven away at any given ****ing time?

The only word that applies to your theory is: ludicrous.

LoL @ "imminent assault" though. That's a good one.

The witnesses, as I linked, said he never even threatened her.

Go work on your theory some more.

Meanwhile, you ignore the only actual assault with your "one step" theory.

Maybe he should have tried that.

Yell at her, take a step back. Step forward, yell some more, take a step back.

 

Yup. That's exactly what happened.

 

LOL! No, I just liked some of your proposals for reform.

 

Then what did he do.

Oh so he could have put his hands up and said he was sorry, instead of trying to circle to his weak side.

Thanks for the admission.

 

I don't think I have enough information to say the does are fighting a rearguard action. I do think we have enough information to consider the hormoned up bucks who are normally physically superior to the does, both more likely to spot you first as they scan more consistently as they are looking for both rivals and predators, and more likely to come off the block faster which would appear about the same.

 

So, the witnesses provided at least a little help to Drejka. That surprises me a bit.

 

After being shot while standing still and no longer presenting an imminent threat, he beat feet.

Well when you have the freeze response instead of one of the other responses you tend to be stuck in place until acted upon. Like being shot.
No admission there buddy, you made that out of whole cloth yourself. Its rather pretty even.

 

So you don't go generally. You go by specifics in the case at hand. In the case at hand it was sufficient to stop his imminent assault and he was in no danger of an imminent attack as he could've simply shot McGlockton had he redoubled his attack, just like he did when McGlockton just stood there.

 

I'm sorry I had to trick you. No, I'm not really.

So now you've presented: "He was taking steps back and was no longer a threat" AND "but teh guy is teh frozen"

Pick a ****ing theory and stick with it.

 

Does usually show up first to take the arrows and bullets and save the bucks. A trophy hunter I know described how patient he has to be to get a shot at a big buck. The guys who hunt for meat end up with more venison than they can freeze or eat pretty fast now.

 

The video shows that Drejka is vulnerable to another attack. He was in an awkward position and needed to get off the ground, and he could not do that without giving his attacker an opportunity to disarm him. His only safe prudent move was to shoot.

Police and CCW permit holders are usually taught to shoot at center mass. It might be a good idea to suggest that shooting lower is a valid judgement call. Of course, that is always riskier for the shooter. I am sure Drejka wishes he had fired 2 or three at hip level - that might have worked.

 

Wow, not only would you leave your girlfriend and children to face the armed killer by themselves, you can run faster than a bullet!

 

What the others are doing is irrelevant as none of them had a gun pointed at them from 8 foot away.

Did you not understand the post where I wrote:
"If you believe that this killer is going to shoot you then you'll get about one inch further away by trying to run before the bullet hits you. If you don't believe that the killer will fire then no need to run away. So in either case you are looking at a difference of one inch. In conclusion running away would have made no difference."

ie the victim did not think that the murderer would shoot and all the images do show that the victim backed away.

 

Which is the reason the jury convicted his sorry ass.

 

Except McGlockton had stopped and could not close the distance before Drejka could pull the trigger. So he's pretty safe at gun point. He's also on his knees which means he can bring one knee up and stand like a normal ****ing person can.
He is now getting butt ****ed on the daily because it was not in fact a safe or prudent move.

No sale there. Center mass and check your backstop. Shooting at legs and arms is per se 1) endangering the public and 2) admitting you're not cleared for deadly force since you're trying for something less lethal but harder to hit.

I'm sure Drejka wishes he'd 1) not played permit patty 2) not shot when threat was sufficient.

 

I've never been a trophy hunter, which is not to say I've never obtained a trophy, just that we hunted for meat and tradition rather than 'sport' or aiming for the largest. I'll be honest, to hunt deer you've got to get up real ****ing early in the morning, its cold, you put deer piss all over yourself, etc., so I tend to plug the first above average specimen I see that's clear. Backstrap is backstrap, you know

 

No vman, I said he fell back A step and THEN FROZE. See how that's a different from your.... re-written for the cinema version?
If you claim otherwise: QUOTE ME.

 

One of which is requiring them to be professionals since they are not currently, which you agreed with

 

Yes cars have glass in their doors and you can break it and reach in and absolutely man handle someone. Have you never been in a fight before or something?

Again, as stated for perhaps the 7th time now, she can indeed respond to his harassment without voiding defensive force.

Says the guy whose theory has Drejka locked up for years in real pound me in the ******* prison? That's pretty rich.

You don't have to make a terrorist threat (example: I'll kill you you ****ing handicapped parking ****) to be harassing someone or to qualify for assault. You've got some awfully queer ideas about how use of force and the criminal law function. This is why you need to go consult with, and pay, a lawyer you respect to correct your ignorance here so you don't end up like Drejka.

Its not a one step theory bud. See, this is why you're having trouble. You keep looking for a bright line and there isn't one.

O so more things that didn't happen in the case eh? Lovely.