Sheriff called parking spot shooting legal under ‘stand your ground’ laws. Prosecutors disagreed.

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    I liked your post not all of your ideas - just some
    of them. Police generally are at least as professional as lawyers.
    IOW, both professions could do better.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Of course.
     
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    Witnesses said the same thing, and there is no indication in the video that he was going into the store. He pulled up right next to McGlockton's car when there were many spots closer to the front door. (kind brings into question why that was the handicap space to begin with)

    I am not even sure that the shooter parked in a valid parking spot.
     
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    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    You challenge other people as to whether they saw the video. It is posted above. Why do you keep insisting that McGlockton stopped? He was clearly moving away from the shooter as carefully as possible to make no sudden moves.
     
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    The shooter was just the obnoxious busy body knocked on his ass by the thug.

    The thug has all my sympathy. RIP
     
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    I say he stopped because he did. Watch the video.
    Or read the thread and all the posts that have acknowledged that he stopped his retreat until shot. He was clearly waiting for the gun to be lowered.

    When he ran away the shooting stopped.
     
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    Yes, the shooter was a dick.
     
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    Are you saying McGlockton was justified in the physical assault? That had he not been killed he would not have been subject to a charge? That if I point out to someone who just dumped trash out of their car and I even in an angry voice yell at them HEY DON'T DO THAT ON MY STREET, they then have a right to come and physically assault me?
     
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    And that gives someone the right to physically assault them in such a manner that could cause serious bodily harm?
     
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    Nope. But it does give a dick with a gun the right to shoot you in self defense.

    Lesson for thugs: resist the temptation to assault and batter obnoxious dicks.
    You will live longer. The jury made a mistake and watered that lesson down - a bit.
     
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    You assume, the jury disagreed because there is no evidence for that. Its clear on the tape the fight is over when the gun comes out, just like dude stopped ****ing with a defenseless woman and her children while playing permit patty when engaged.

    I can stay on my knees for quite a while, and I'm not precisely a specimen of great fitness I'm an average 30 yr old man, not to mention I can stand up without either taking my hands off my gun or my eyes off a target. Like a normal person. I can tuck my arms back a bit so I'm not at full extension and still hit a target that close too.
    Getting tired doesn't allow you to call the guy an imminent threat when he's not coming toward you and he's unarmed.
     
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    He froze when he had a gun pointed at him. That's not an unheard of reaction. We've been over and over this.
     
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    I went to college in the Texas hill country, and my grandparents moved up there when they retired, and people feed the deer in their neighborhoods so they can watch them in their yards and ****. The ****ers are everywhere and the city deer are bold as brass because they know for some reason where they're at they never get ****ed with.
     
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    One is liable under the professional standard of torts, the other is a civilly immune civilian authorized for lethal force. Not so much.
     
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    No, it's not. First of all, the reaction is not universal.
     
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    No, you believe you know. Mind reading is guesswork, not science.
    Had the shooter been faster on the draw, he might not have been convicted because the victim would not be on a video recording turning away from the shooter. Slower on the draw, and it might be clear that the shooter didn't need to shoot.
     
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    Was that your intended reaction? In other words, did you think about it before you reacted? I guess in your situation, you did have pause to consider your options. When it happened to me, it happened fast. I grabbed the barrel of the gun and we fought over it. Completely unintentional reaction on my part. The thing that's always stuck with me is that we don't know how we will react when we're thrown into that kind of a situation. In that sense, expecting the victim to react by running away is only one of three likely responses.
     
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    No. You don't blindside on an attack then move towards a downed opponent while pulling up your pants and not have the intention of beating your opponent to a pulp.

    I agree with the faster part.

    Slower on the draw would have proven my point above.
     
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    Comparing cops to lawyers is not exactly elevating cops....
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    And at the same time, the video shows the victim stepping back and beginning to turn away. He was no longer a threat.
     
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    Shoved to the ground and died later. Looks fine huh.



    15 year old girl



    When you really want to put a pounding on someone, you first put them on the ground and stun them, which is exactly what this guys actions indicated.

     
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    Yet nurses kill a hell of a lot more people than anyone else.
     
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    Strange that the disabled space appears to be furthest away from the entrance. Does anyone know if the spot was actually a disabled space? Ie has it been confirmed
     
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    I hate to break it to you, but someone who has already attacked you and came at you until he saw a gun, is still a threat within eyesight.

    Particularly when he has a history of attacking other people he knew had a gun and felony domestic violence.
     
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    Yes, it was a HC spot, but it was not marked properly per city and Federal regulations. I read that the sign in front of the spot was in text format only and did not have the HC symbol on it as is required by even Federal Regulations. The HC symbol on the pavement was also very faded and not clearly obvious.
     
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