Thousands of Russians rally to demand free elections

By the way - why doesn’t your quote include the picture of Pootin? Are you in Russia and are afraid to be in jail for reposting it?
In Russia this would be a real criminal liability.

 

Notice how Dimon just skips over every point that he cannot handle.

He does not deny that the CIA has a long history of meddling inside other countries.

He does not deny that the US props up a horrific dictatorship in Saudi Arabia while hypocritically pointing its finger at Russia.

He does not deny that the US political system is controlled by billionaires and millionaires.

But neither does he make even the slightest attempt to address those facts.

Because there is nothing he can say. He's got nothing but empty talking points and rank hypocrisy.

 

"This guess is as good as your guesses about CIA being involved in every uprising, revolt and revolution in this world."

I never said the CIA was involved in every uprising, revolt and revolution in the world. That was just another one of your lies.

So how do you do it so easily? Perhaps you are so used to lying, that you don't even realize when you're doing it.

 

I like to format my responses in the most elegant and efficient manner possible. Excluding your infantile picture was simply a matter of expedience.

 

Vlaidimir Putin is a big evil dummy and I hate him sooooo much!!!

Come at me, Putin! I dare you!

 

It's funny. I've been a member of this forum since 2010, but I only became a secret Russian after Hillary Clinton lost the presidency. How curious.

 

I don’t. But most of the CIAs doings are in the distant past and there is no proof they had anything to do with protests in Moscow.

I don’t concern myself much with our dealings with Saudi Arabia. And I don’t care about your darling Yemen. Guilty as charged.
Now, remind me, why are you bringing Saudi Arabia to conversation about protests in Moscow again?

That’s true pretty much everywhere.

Why should I? I’m in discussion about protests in Moscow. I chose to ignore your whataboutism.

Another dose of whataboutism. We are talking about protests in Moscow. I have no interest to debate conspiracy nuts.

 

Because the CIA conducts its operations behind a wall of state secrecy. Duh.

Because it proves how selective and phony your outrage over Russia is. You don't actually care about oppressive government practices. In fact, you're more than happy to support them with your tax dollars. And my tax dollars as well!

Prove it.

You mean you chose to ignore facts that demonstrate your phony outrage and hypocrisy.

 

Does not mean they are a god and behind every revolt, protest or revolution in this world. I prefer to think that people can think for themselves.

Russia has nukes. I’d much rather see Russia break up into another 15-20 countries than care about some desert king with a bunch of oil. As long as he sells - I don’t care.
If people rise up against their king then I sincerely wish them success.

Prove what? That most of the politicians in the world are millionaires? Are you for real?

The only thing that I thought was outrageous was your claim that CIA was behind Russian protests. As if Russians have absolutely no reason to protest anything whatsoever.

 

The rally was called by the disqualified candidate Lyubov Sobol who was rejected because of signature collection fraud. The rally was not approved by the city since there were a number of events on that day and they wouldn't have been able to provide security. During the rally Sobol again called for the dropping of the ban and the release of protesters detained during earlier unsanctioned rallies.

Even though it was unauthorized, it was peaceful and there were no arrests.

The protests are mentioned in the MSM and by certain posters to arouse anger against the present government in Russia. I don't know if it's Russiaphobia or Christianphobia but it is heading us into a war. I don't know what gain anyone would have with that - unless they are delusional and consider themselves invulnerable.

I toot my horn and dance with glee
when listening to the reverie
of lands a-far. For what I know,
it's but a show and soon they'll go.

But not before they suffer dear
for having poked the Russian bear - Jeannette

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well, not each one, but only those which get 'attention' from the west and its media.

how then do you explain they always 'think' precisely what expected by west media?

 

What fraud?

What scumbag dictatorship? Doesn't the majority and the welfare of the people count anymore? There were 720 people at the rally out of a city with a metropolitan area of 20 million.

What Washington really wants is to go back to the Yeltsin years, when billions were stolen from Russia and shipped to London, Zurich, and Tel Aviv while the Russian people starved. No wonder Washington's 'elites' hate Vladimir Putin.

 

what is so special about this news to be of interest for a world forum?

yeah? a crowd of 2 thousand? 50 000 did not make it, some years ago, now 2000 do?

 

The fraud other posters alledge.

I've seen evidence suggesting Putin bombed some unnoccupied buildings his campaign was affiliated with in order to garner sympathies in his first election campaign. But I've not researched it, and Im not saying its true. However, from where I sit here in the US, I have no more or less reason to believe that narrative than I do the narrative that his opponents are using fraud to manufacture a perceived popularity.

What I take issue with is the notion that because Putin holds power, he's the only one that could be involved in fraud. Pure idiocy.

 

It has also been going on for a while now. Seems people are determined to do away with election fraud in Russia. Putin must be sweating.

 

How about the election fraud here? If it's fraud disqualifying candidates in Russia, then it's fraud disqualifying them here as well.

You're just mad because she's a liberal and she's disqualified. Let me ask you something, if you're not Russian, then why are you so concerned about what's going on in Moscow? I can understand criminals like Brower, Khoderovsky, etc, who stole millions from Russia and want to continue doing it and are being hindered by Putin, but I don't think you're one of them - so what gives?

 

I care when Russia becomes a threat to our democracy under Putin's rule.

And no, there's no equivalence between what is going on in Moscow and what happens in our elections.

 

I don't see Vladimir Putin as being a threat to our democracy, other than in the lies of the DNC. I do see Washington as a threat to Russia's democracy as well as the democracies of other countries such as Venezuela and Syria, when their elected leaders won't tow the line.

Conspiracy theories come and go,
and yet with some it can't be so.
It's Putin here, it's Russia there,
It's what they're told you know?

The years will come and years will pass,
but this one's sure to last and last,
for Russia must remain a foe.
It's what they're told you know? - Jeannette

THE END!

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Put them right next to Flinstone and Pillhussy

 

This is because you simply do not see what you do not want to see, and because you see what you do want to see, regardless of what is objectively true.

 

Most intelligent people will see how disingenuous this "argument" is. It's just towing the dictatorship
line.
The governments of Russia, Syria and Veneuzela lay claim to "democracy" because that is what
dictatorships must do these days.

It's the CLAIM to democracy that some swallow, hook, like and sinker. True democracy is when
you can challenge your own government, and change it without having to die in the process.

Given half a chance the people of Veneuzela would vote out Maduro and his Socialist clap trap.
I say there's a 100% chance of that.

For Russia I give Putin less than 50% chance of staying in power if there were genuine elections.

And I cannot speak for Syria because I don't get the various power plays with tribes, religions,
regions and outside powers going on.

 

then go challenge your local tax department because it is them who govern you really.

 

It's a good point. The citizens give the right to their elected govt to tax. And these
citizens have the say in how much tax and to what it is spent upon.
This "say" isn't direct. It's through policies, elected officials or supported parties.
The American left is more pro-tax than the right. They want their govt to provide
more services. The minutia of these policies are up to the party they have voted.

 

it doesn't and is far from that.

besides, vote is not what makes a country function.

no vote needed to know people want only 3 things: security, income & entertainment.

change should come not with a change of rulers but only with step up of the above 3.

 

why govt election while they should be entitled to elect there tax department right away?