Frightening! Three Masked Teens with Guns Shot Dead by Homeowner in GA w/ AR-15

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    because mass shootings with ar-15's kill many people at once fast and easily, handguns are not often used for mass killings, they are more often self defense, suicide and gang related shootings

    no one is saying people can't own them, just that is should be harder than buying a hand gun - same as machine guns

    it's like cars, they kill and injure many people, but we just accept it - but if mass murders use them every day could it become harder to buy one (rent one), maybe
     
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    You mean like the 32 people killed at Virginia Tech with a .22 and a 9mm.
     
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    it happens, but hand guns will never be banned - most realize you can't ban all guns
     
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    Wouldn't know. Haven't heard a gun shot around here in at least a week and a half. Lamest war zone ever.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why, I would pass to buy it if harder to get, I think most would.... but it would maybe stop some mass shootings, obviously the ones that happen without much thought, a planner could still get them too, just harder, maybe a longer waiting period
     
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    what is it for machine guns today?

    I think people could make due with all the other gun options available for home security without the ar-15

    course we can debate it all we want, but like the abortion debate, neither side will give, so really it's going nowhere

    both sides want it that way, both sides do not really want either issue resolved (those in power) as it helps then run for office
     
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    I was young skinny low on the totem pole and only given a .45 ACP and a effed up light to do that.

    If I had access to a 40mm, which I had never seen there, or understood what one was, it would have been so much easier to stand well back and let someone launch one of those into the hole.

    Then there where times where napalm was shot into the entrance to see what kind of Vietnam fried treats came back out of it.

    That war sucked big time, I hated being there.
     
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    None of which makes sense, what can be improved on the background checks and longer waiting checks can kill innocents.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    how can a longer waiting period for an ar-15 kill innocents?

    can easily buy a gun without a waiting period if need to do so to protect oneself

    waiting periods stop some killings, like the crimes of passion and people that go postal that do not already own guns - gives them a cooling off period
     
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    Silencers?
     
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    Totally false and an anti-gun lie.
     
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    Thank you for standing on that line.

    I know the desert sucked, but I can only imagine how much worse it sucked in the jungle.

    We could at least see em comin at us.
     
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    Tell that to the lady up in New Jersey who was beaten to death while on her third day of a five day waiting period to buy a firearm.

    How's that possible, post the statutes that allow that or ****.

    Post actual stats to back that up from neutral sources or again ****.
     
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    Haha, good one Nonnie! You made me smile, you're alright. :)
     
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    sure there were other guns than a ar-15 that would have kept her safe - crimes of passion can happen anytime, hard to prevent them 100%

    different states have different waiting periods for different guns


    that is common sense.... don't need any links to back it up, you are free to disagree
     
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    I think you should re check your figures on that and then amend your statement
     
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    In other words you will not directly answer any of the questions I asked of you.

    That's fine you post BS and cannot back it up, which speaks volumes about your credibility.

    Have a good day.
     
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    How about you don't break in to people's home and tried to steal things. In the process you don't get shot.
     
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    I will not be looking up links to prove that a person that finds out their lover cheated on them is best not buying a gun till they cool off... no - that is common sense

    feel free to find an article that says a person like that is better off buying a gun as soon as possible before they have a chance cool down...
     
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    Then you've done nothing to stop mass shootings by banning AR15's.
     
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    totally agree, anyone breaking into anyones house deserves to get shot, that is a risk they take
     
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    Then why do you put out information, which you cannot backup, because what you posted is not common sense but a repetition of the anti-gunners lies.

    You made the statement, it is on you to back it up, not I, if you cannot do so admit your are full of it.
     
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    I appreciate your question & want to make sure that I understand it correctly.

    Do you mean: 1. "Why are armed home invasions almost exclusively an American phenomena?"

    Or...

    Do you mean: 2. "Why are homicides, muggings, rapes & robberies almost exclusively an American phenomena?"

    In the 80+ countries with higher homicide rates than the US (1), I think that both #1 & #2 occur more frequently in those countries than the US.
    Additionally, those 80+ countries have far stricter gun laws than the US but much higher homicide rates.

    One of the reasons it's difficult to compare one country to another is that they calculate and label their crimes differently.

    For example:
    EXCERPT " Fact: Comparing crime rates between America and Britain is fundamentally flawed. In America, a gun crime is recorded as a gun crime. In Britain, a crime is only recorded when there is a final disposition (a conviction). All unsolved gun crimes in Britain are not reported as gun crimes, grossly undercounting the amount of gun crime there. 23 To make matters worse, British law enforcement has been exposed for falsifying criminal reports to create falsely lower crime figures, in part to preserve tourism. "CONTINUED (2)

    I attempted to find a balanced & informative source that would help address your question & hope I have done so.
    Please let me know your opinion of it.

    Finally, I don't know if armed home invasions are more pervasive in America than the rest of the world or not and don't know if there is a fair and accurate way to find out.

    I can only speak from personal experience in one case where my unarmed next door neighbors in our rough neighborhood had their phone lines cut in the pre cell phone era & couldn't call 911.

    I heard the screams at around 2PM, was armed and was able to successfully scare off the 3 miscreants with just a warning shot into the floor. Yes, I was scared too.
    Unfortunately, not all home invasions end so bloodlessly and I saw that, once again, criminal attacks don't just happen to people far away.


    (1) "Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) - Country Ranking"
    https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings


    (2) "Guns in Other Countries"
    http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/guns-in-other-countries/
     
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    Think about this logically, if you can.

    A guy comes home and finds his wife in bed with another person, your claiming he is going to run out and go to a gun shop and buy a gun to go back home and shoot the person in bed with his wife?

    Do you really believe that's possible?
     
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    maybe his wife or the guy sleeping with his wife, crimes of passion happen all the time
     
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