Frightening! Three Masked Teens with Guns Shot Dead by Homeowner in GA w/ AR-15

Where did you get that?
Tyler is running as an Independent against the Republican incumbent.

The RP has denounced Tyler.

"An independent candidate for Congress from Tennessee has been swept up in a wave of criticism for his campaign billboard vowing to "Make American White Again." Rick Tyler, who is running for the 3rd Congressional District in the northeastern part of the state..."
THE WASHINGTON POST, The Fix, ‘Make America White Again’: A politician’s billboard ignites uproar, By Lindsey Bever, Reporter
June 23, 2016.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...again-a-politicians-billboard-ignites-uproar/

 

It was taken down June 21. Two days before the WaPo story on the billboard was published.

No mention of when it was put up.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna597916

It lasted 12 hours and was removed on account of public outrage. Seems like the way it ought to work. Nobody’s rights violated etc.

You beat me to the Independent not Republican part. Anal sphincters can be and are dealt with. Using this story to smear people who have no love for those like Tyler is silly.

 

The source of inspiration for those of evil intent, whose minds twisting & distortedly govern their own motivations - is their issue & their issue alone. I'm sure a handful of Sharia practicing American Muslims were inspired to vote for Barrack O, given their binary options. I don't have much positive to say about Barrack O, however, I wouldn't lay the atrocities of Sharia law (in the US) at O's feet.

 

Accidental death by firearm is 0.4% of all accidental deaths.

Your ladder is more dangerous than a firearm.

 

Defense of self and others is not a valid reason for firearm ownership in Australia

 

Though rather diametrically flipped on its head in modern times, the Notion of TJ's quote "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery" remains the same. Flipped on its head in the sense that ubiquity of an armed citizenry is inherently safer & "peaceful slavery" ie. abrogation of 'arms' by top down governance, is actually more dangerous.

What has changed - evil perpetrated from within, citizen against citizen & not from without, as in colonial times.

 

Nonnie, seems you lost interest in the thread, but I would like to add something else concerning the heritage of our people and how it affects their beliefs. Consider the national anthems of our countries:

United Kingdom "God Save The Queen"

God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,
God save the Queen!

United States "The Star Spangled Banner"

Oh, say! can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming;
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there:
Oh, say! does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

The differences may seem inconsequential in respect to the mindset of the citizenry. I posit that the above is a good indicator of the differences in psyche between our peoples. We could find many more examples.

Please don't assume that I am casting a negative light on anyone. I am just exposing that our mindsets are different based on the things that were put before us in our formative years. Nothing says that one is right and one is wrong. Nothing says that one is better than the other. They are just different.

The individual is greater than the government versus the government is greater than the individual.
Self reliance versus the welfare state.

I can see the attraction of either view. It is obvious which one I prefer. Granted, the American mindset is changing and my views will become antiquated. I won't be around to see the result.

 

Correct.

 

A politician who dreams about the Confederacy rising again is just a traditional DP pol.

 

Well I suppose so.

 

My loss. I would have been interested in your thoughts on my hypotheses.

I hope that my comparisons didn't play a role. Fact is, when the chit hits the fan, there is no other people that I would rather have as an ally than the people of the United Kingdom.

 

When I first started out on American forums a number of years ago, I went over and over gun threads. As time goes on, they just just go over old ground, round and round in circles.

The only way America can reduce gun deaths, if it wants to, is to amend the 2nd amendment to the effect that the types of guns can be regulated. Today's America is different to Flintlock America.

So it's up to your politicians. Obviously the politicians are happy with the death toll.

Another driving force, and I don't mean to rude, Americans are obsessed in nature and they've been spoon fed rights. Brits, traditional Brits, were traditionally into responsibilities. Hence why America has a predominant compensation culture which has been filtering into the UK eroding our responsibilities culture.

Then, stupid Tony Blair came up with Human Rights, the most anti common sense legislation ever invented.

So the gun debate goes on and on and on.

 

I'll have to look up Blair's Human Rights legislation to see what it is about.

Thank you for your comments. Always good to see and ponder the other side of the coin, especially when it is presented with thought and good intentions. Thank you for your posting style and good humor.

 

I've predominantly voted Conservative all my life, once for labour when I banged my head, once for BNP as a protest vote, a couple of times for UKIP and I will vote Brexit Party at the next given opportunity.

And I own two shotguns and an air rifle. Be responsible is very high. Have a bolted down gun cabinet at home, you only know the whereabouts of the keys. Police check you and the cabinet every 5 years. You must have a valid reason to own one and stow in the cabinet when not in use. Guns must be in a gun bag and unloaded when transported.

Any deviation, you are fined, lose your guns and sometimes jailed.

When on a driven Pheasant shoot, anyone who disobeys any commands gets kicked off. I've only seen one guy get booted off, he shot when a bird was too low, he was warned. When he did it again, he was booted off, that cost him a small fortune.

To wander about armed and open carry is a no no. Why stop those who are not suitable to have a gun simply have the opportunity of mugging someone with a loaded visible gun? Does that happen?

 

Research how many children have got hold of car keys then taken the family car on a joy drive. No cries to keep car keys away from children.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news...-parents-suv-leads-police-on-high-speed-chase

 

No, but then again, cars are not designed to kill or maim people. additionally most car keys are kept on person for the most part and unless you have the keys, the car is essentially useless. guns generally when not being used or worn are left about the house on a counter or drawer which makes for easy access.

 

True that cars are not meant to kill, although the death toll from them is far more than from guns, but many cars are specifically designed to break the law, Porsche, Ferrari, Mustang, Corvette etc.
https://www.motor1.com/news/365319/2020-chevy-corvette-top-speed/

 

I think the primary issue would be the drivers who are unwilling to obey the traffic laws. The same would go for gun owners who refuse to safely secure their guns.

 

Hand guns are harder to aim, especially under stress. Ar 15. Is a super choice for home defense home owners prove it often.

 

.38 yes but a 40mm may be overkill. Plus who makes a holster that size?