Climate Activist Greta

Your appeal to the apocalypse is duly noted. It seems shrill, and unsustainable though. And if it's just a "few dollars", feel free to kick it all by yourself. Think about it this way, you'd be the hero of your age.. Feel free.

 

How can you say that? Can you prove that the world isn't ending? (Also, a little spoiler: Any way you try to show or offer evidence that the world isn't ending, I'll just claim that you haven't proven it in a lab, or it's not repeatable or something)

 

Emphasis mine of course. Full stop. The point was that the teen wasn't on the stage but for parental permission which a non-abusive parent would certainly have withheld. Yes let's take our nice autistic child whose particular disorders have previously manifested in selective mutism and self starvation when we spun her into a fit about climate, and dump her in a foreign nation with foreign handlers without her family even being there to go repeat a script said handlers provide her on an international broadcast.
Because, apparently, that's what is perfectly appropriate to do with an autistic child who gets spun up about climate, you continuously expose her to the thing that gives her a fit over and over for your own gain and amusement and use her as a human shield for your argument because anyone who gainsays her is bullying an autistic child.

 

Just about every nation on Earth, INCLUDING india and China is doing a LOT more than the USA. They have to, or they won't be able to breathe soon and that is because their huge populations have already polluted them to a terrible degree. ONLY the USA is acting as if the problem doesn't exist

Nobody is saying that the world is going to end. What they are saying is that at those times we reach levels which cannot be reasonably reduced before they start causing other things. For instance, if the level of saltiness in the North Atlantic is raised enough by the melting of the Greenland Ice this might shut off the Gulf Stream and that would make Europe much colder. (Europe is as far North as Labrador)

 

What is being suggested that is so bad? Can you tell me?

 

Could you provide a link to her background of selective mutism and self starvation due to climate change? Thanks

 

I can create any number of credible predictions from getting smashed by a meteor/comet to unknown gravitational waves oscillating the planet to rubble. I could take the super long game and wait it out until the Sun reaches it's red giant stage, and consumes to earth either from gravitational orbit decay or corona expansion. That doesn't mean that any of them are likely (except ultimately the Sun and it's lifecycle in billions of years from now) or that any are credible to the extent that we can trust that any of them will happen. We do know, for example, that we're living on the edge, and the end of the Holocene age. So, from the perspective of warm blooded creatures, winter comes.. eventually. But probably not tomorrow. And, if we use the earth as our lab, we know that periodically, we get slammed by a large meteor, and we know that periodically, the poles switch. Any one of which might then, depending on whatever BS definition you're trying to create here, might become the "end of the world" of which you speak. But sure, crafting ambiguous language to ensure that you demonstrate your superior logic traps aside, the world still ends. So fragility is always expected, is it not?

 

The cessation of carbon based fuels in 12 years. Now, I know, some folks, like the super androgynous professor from Columbia have recanted on this but....

The cessation of air travel. (again, seems to be a misunderstanding between what AOC says, and what the "plan" says"....)

The use of legislative bans on agriculture,

I mean, how chrissy sake, there's actually a list. None of which are acceptable in the context of our current economy. And for all all the "well it's for our own good" BS, it actually isn't for our own good, is it? It's unrealistic, creates the foundation of a political autocracy that destroys our liberties, and frankly, is only designed to further stratify the power of the very few against the rest of us. I know, you dig it, perhaps because you believe you're a part of that very few... I doubt that, but if you were, all I can say is greed always gets you at some point.

 

I gave you a chance to demonstrate your understanding of the literature, but you failed

 

My point is that using the definition of proof that you want to use, you can't disprove any number of nonsense things. Will blowing up the brooklyn bridge prevent the earth's core from exploding tomorrow? Can't prove that it won't. So, what are we to do? My vote would be to have smart people study the problem using whatever means they have available and accept the conclusions they draw. You use the phrase 'likely', and a bunch of other things determined by science, so let's just use science.

 

Poor little Greta believes, with all of her heart, that Anthromorphic climate change is going to end the world.. and she will NEVER be able to change her mind about that, regardless of evidence to the contrary.

 

Oh, I failed huh?

 

Show me the over whelming majority of experts that say people are dying over climate change. Show me experts that say there world is going to end in 9 years.

 

Nobody is saying that.

 

this should be doing a lot more than us they're responsible for a lot more of the pollution than we are.

we can't do anything about it. We are responsible for like 3% of the pollution. our laws don't apply to China and India who were responsible for 60 or 70% pollution.

yes they are.

it don't buy those claims either.

you have got to be joking. The ice on Greenland is freshwater only fresh water freezes so if it all melts and goes into the ocean it's going to dilute the salt not raise it.

So I'm not going to believe whatever crazy crap you say.

 

I've heard people say it so you're either lying or you live on Mars.

 

Like who?

 

AOC. Democratic candidates for president.

 

That's one

 

Computer models are how we predict the weather., and we routinely base policy on weather predictions

Can you point out specifically where in the documents under question it says those things? i didn't see them and since you say you get your info from the documents themselves that shouldn't be too much trouble. Thanks.

Can we stop with the ad hominem attacks? I apologize if I have done any on you and will try not to do them again if I did, even though it's increasingly evident that you must have a large portfolio of Exxon shares along with a brand new Hummer and are more concerned about that than whether we and our children all die from famine, hurricanes, etc thanks very much

 

So, once again, there is a difference between the world ending in 9 years and having 9 years to take drastic action to avoid the worst effects.

 

But we're talking about the leaders of the cult of climate change.

 

Not much of one both statements are designed to promote hysterics

 

Uh huh

 

Right, but you said...'people', which indicates plural. So far you have one.