Whistleblower complaint against Trump declassified, could be released Thursday

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  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Crowdstrike might be even worse! He still thinks his Intel heads are lying to him? Or was he just asking them to fabricate evidence to help Roger Stone? Did he even read the mueller indictments of the Russians?!
     
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    Bullcrap. All Americans should know more about Crowdstrike. Now you just want crap covered up. Yet another Leftist not wanting transparency.
     
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  3. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Its sad. Trump still believes conspiracy theories over his own administration. Or he wanted manufactured evidence.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ROFL! Keep telling us about "Conspiracy Theories" Mr. Trump Russia Collusion believer!

    Holy crap you are precious.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    You can’t rely on the mueller report to claim collusion didn’t happen then Ignore it to pretend crowdstrike needs to be invesigated lol
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Mueller Report (Volume 2) is complete garbage, outside of the purview of Mueller, was written by Andrew Weissman and was a massive abuse of power.
     
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    Draco Well-Known Member

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    THIS IS A "LIE BY OMISSION"

    You are completely leaving out what Zelensky said in order to try to build the narrative that the media is spitting out. You literally left out all the things Zelensky agreed with, how the EU is ignoring the law and refuse to help them, how the corruption is

    THIS ISN'T WORKING, why do you guys keep trying to bend and twist the truth when it is clearly on record?

    Do you honestly think you are gaining more voters?

    Let me ask you guys this, what game do you think you are playing? That is not an attack, that is not a ... anything, I am honestly curious.

    Because the "game" of politics is to create policy that the most people agree with, you guys are LITERALLY doing the opposite. Then inventing reasons to try to go against what "We The People" keep telling you.

    So again, honestly, what game are you trying to win with all these fake stories?
     
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    Why not?

    That is clearly what happened. The report VERY clearly showed there was no "collusion", this is why no body in America cares about it, or haven't you noticed?

    That same report, went on to show that CrowdStrike was a part of this cover up.

    How in the world are you trying to say the two are mutually exclusive? That is literally third grade logic.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So collusion hasn’t been Ruled out.
     
  10. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    We need our weapons
    I need a favor though

    Cry all you want, this is big.
     
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    Why do you always have to speculate or use statements and words Not in the evidence? It's always he said but means, he asked for a favor on Biden when that's not what the favor he asked for, or he asked for an investigation when he actually said look into it.
     
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    No the report showed that we knew it wS Russia without crowdstrike.
    Here’s a link you won’t read.
    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1K32X1
     
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    I have a feeling you are doing the Progressive/Communist spin here ....

    Your conversation with HB was about Ukraine corruption/collusion, until he brought up Crowdstrike and that the data shows they were corrupt and should be looked in to.

    From there, you started throwing out random attacks against all kinds of things to change the subject.

    "Quick, quick! Look over here! ..... No, not there..."

    This is a perfect example of Neo-Marxist tactics called "Deconstruction". Instead of talking about the subject at hand, you obfuscate and attack to go after the reputation of the speaker or their ideas.

    I ask my same question above, which game do you actually think your playing?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We know it was Russia.

    https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1K32X1
     
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    This is only "Big" in the MSNBC, DailyKos, CNN circles.... in the end the result will be...

    [​IMG]

    You people have gone way too far and the American public is going to punish you in the elections.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Why’d they hold up the aid?
    Why did they try to cover up the call?
     
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    You appear quite confused.
    I'll try to help.
    The FBI, NSA, CIA and Republican-controlled Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concluded that
    "Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the U.S. presidential election. Russia's goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump."
    The Trump Justice Department's Republican Special Counsel was appointed by Trump's acting Attorney General 'to oversee the previously-confirmed FBI investigation of Russian government efforts to influence the 2016 presidential election and related matters."

    There was no mention of "collusion" (which is not a crime) although Trump kept saying it for unknown reasons.
    In fact, the US State Department, EU, and democratic forces within Ukraine were all among those demanding the ouster of the corrupt prosecutor - who had already stopped investigating the company in question.

    Trump
    alone characterized the widely-acknowledged dirtbag as "very good" and all the anti-corruption forces opposing him as "very bad people."

    You are raving incoherently.

    After withholding desperately-needed foreign aid, Trump applied pressure on a foreign head-of-state and asked for a "favor" smearing a political opponent concerning whom there is no evidence of improper behavior.

    Trump has offered two phony excuses for his caper: 1) He wanted EU nations to contribute to Ukraine as well. They had - far more than the US and 2) He was concerned about corruption in Ukraine. His own administration had already cleared Ukraine and authorized the funds.

    In an apparent cover-up attempt, White House officials covertly moved the Trump transcript with President Zelensky to a computer system directly managed by the National Security Council Directorate for Intelligence Programs.

    It is illegal to solicit a "favor" from a foreign source to be used against one's political opponents.
     
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    Look, you are doing it again!!!!!

    You said "collusion didn't happen", then post a link to some random theory with "technical evidence" (that doesn't work in court i hope you know) that they think Russia did it, WHICH ISN'T PROVEN STILL!!!!

    Then, in a further attempt to frame me personally and get people to not like me you add in "In the report you won't read"

    Another full on lie, I just read it, I would love to read it, did you post it earlier and I didn't see it? Possibly, but you chose to frame the argument as me doing something deceitful, full on Socialist/Communist evil framing.

    Then, your own article goes on to state:

    " it did not link those efforts with hacking, phishing attempts or distribution of hacked information to Republican operatives,"

    So what the heck are you even talking about?

    Oh right, you are trying to use Neo-Maxist, Deconstruction tactics to obfuscate away from the conversation. All in an attempt to build some fake narrative that is easily disproven.

    Oh and by the way, the topic of OUR conversation was that "there was no collusion and crowdstrike should be investigated" is still very true.
     
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    So trump lied when he said it was Russia? All his Intel heads are framing Russia? That argument is worse lol
     
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    You are right... he was flat out named as having directing the felony.. I was just following the alleged thing until convicted, but it wouldn't take a jury 15 minutes to do so..

    And I said could have killed people because we might not ever know how that 1.5 month in delay of the Ukrainian funds impacted their active war with Russia... But you really don't care either way as long as Trump skates..
     
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    Bahahahaha, you are doing it AGAIN!!!!!

    I brought up a massive topic about the actual conversation at hand, even stating "It still isn't proven".

    You decided to completely ignore anything that didn't go along with you "Deconstruction" fake news tactics and bring back a response of ..... what? What argument, my statement that it isn't 100% proven?

    Well that is true as well:

    https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/312767-fbi-never-examined-hacked-dnc-servers-report

    My favorite though is Jimmy Dore, god I love him, what a great Progressive. He doesn't believe or spread the media lies, he tries to actually tell people what he likes, unfortunately for him I don't think you can bring people to Socialism that way .... But I applaud his honesty!!!!



    But again, that was not the topic at hand, that was your Neo-Marxist attempt at obfuscating the topic at hand.

    Which .... in case you have forgotten, is that collusion and Crowdstrike being corrupt, are NOT two mutually exclusive things.

    Do you want to talk about that? The real topic? Or do you want to try to twist and turn away from it using Deconstruction tactics?
     
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    If the Whistle blower has to testify before Congress, will we get to see their voting record. I'd like to see that.
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    So you trust the mueller report except you also think they fabricated evidence?
    You also think every trump Intel appointment is framing Russia.
     

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