Turkey set to invade northern Syria, White House says, raising concerns for Kurdish fighters

And if they won't go without a fight?

 

I was going to say a few things about Turkey's inhumanity, but when you mentioned the invasion of Iraq and I thought of the amount of people that died, I decided to shut up.

We'll go now and free them all
to show them that we're standing tall
besides them, as they fight and kill
each other.

But never think that the melee
will make us go away.
When what it does is stir us on
for more each passing day.- Jeannette​

 

Oops. My bad. I meant from NATO.

 

Everyone except the Syrian people - or Assad wouldn't have had an army, nor would he have been elected by a large majority and in a large turn out. Hey Margot, I knew people that were moving back to Syria and praising Assad for what he did for Syria.

 

You're saying that Trump is trading political favors - when there is no basis to it, and you're saying Erdogan is a dictator when he was voted in.

 

Have the Turkish forces gone beyond that safe zone?

 

Really? Hmmm. One of us is on the wrong planet.

Ah, is Erdogan a distant cousin of Maduro, or a kissing cousin?

 

That would still leave them in Northern Syria and your Kurds still at risk. An empty political move with very little consequence and you find that acceptable?

 

Keep in mind we were supposed to be in Syria for 30 days. 30 DAYS!
We are protecting American lives. This is the age we live in, America first (instead of America LAST), and that involves removing US troops which have been fighting an endless war in the middle east for what seems like an eternity. What's coherent is removing us from the middle east, yes. These people have been fighting for thousands of years, our intervention didn't make things better. We didn't solve any of the problems (short of destroying ISIS) The reality is these people fight based on cultural and ideological differences. We are not going to change their mindset. Same situation would unfold or ensue if we pulled out 10 years from now.

We need to place the security of America first, this mentality is central to our overall success. If we cannot defend our own borders, we certainly shouldn't be defending other nation's borders 7000 miles away from our homeland. We bring the troops home, we go more into an isolationist mindset (not saying permanently) and we re-group. Trump is saving lives in the long run here, you can blame him and label it a bad decision but at the end of the day what he is doing is correct. I'll also note that I agree with Trump that going into the middle east was the worst decision our nation has made in modern history (just short of electing Obama as president).

In terms of killing babies, lets be real. Democrats approve of Abortion and some even approve of infanticide. This is sick practice does occur in our abortion clinics. Yes - abortionists are murdering new born babies and labeling it as a late term abortion. Often times these babies are dismembered and their internal organs sold to the highest bidder. There is nothing to prevent them from doing this - and it happens more than you would think. In any event, this debate isn't about abortion. It's about pulling out of the middle east, a land of quicksand that could pull us in until the very day of the apocalypse. It's about getting out and tending to the needs of Americans... not deep state hawkish bureaucrats who want endless war. AMERICA FIRST!
So when Trump murders 60,000,000 babies, then perhaps we can disregard the hypocrisy of the left.

 

Are you saying that American's should die so the Kurds can have lands that never belonged to them in the first place? What about the people living on those lands, do they want the Kurds - or do you think Arab lives are inconsequential?

 

Read Witch Hunt by Gregg Jarrott. Talks about the greatest delusion in American history. i.e. Barack Obama

The United States beat ISIS - Trump beat ISIS and you should give him credit where credit is due. Something that Obama could not accomplish "junior varsity" was the expression he used. Obama attacked Assad because he was fighting against ISIS as well. Obama was the founder, creator and architect of ISIS and our involvement in the middle east was central to his efforts of delivering weapons, cash and vehicles to support the ISIS expansion.

Ever wonder why Obama called ISIS ISIL all the time?

 

The Kurds were fighting ISIS....the Turks are killing the Kurds....then isn't Turkey PRO-TERRORIST with Putin's and Trump's help ?

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...s-on-christians-undercuts-protector-narrative

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/russia-bombing-syrian-hospitals.html

Putin doesn't care about Christians in the Middle East. Russia only supports Assad for geopolitical reasons.

 

This would be the 8th time the Kurds have been betrayed .. giving this trend .. it would not surprise me if there was a #9 in the future.

 

Neither do we but, one thing is clear - Putin has done a whole lot more to help out the Christians that the US has.

The Washington Examiner Link is heavy on the propaganda and false narrative.

None of the above supports the "Assad is attacking Christians Narrative" that is trying to be promoted.

This is what attacks on Christians looks like.

Virginia Senator Thanks Syrian President Bashar Al Assad for Saving the Lives of Christians
Open Letter of U.S. Senator Richard H. Black to President Bashar al-Assad Acknowledges US Support to Terrorists

https://www.globalresearch.ca/virgi...ad-for-saving-the-lives-of-christians/5384338

It is the side that Obama Administration supported- along with the West - Saudi Arabia and the numerous other nations who were arming the radical Islamist Extremists - that were supporting attacks on Christians.

That is why the Christians support Assad - who has Christian Generals in his army. I don't think there were too many Christian generals in the radical Islamist extremist proxy army that we sent against Assad.




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As to your first question: Dunno.

In any case, it is hardly surprising that this guarantee was given. (After all, the Kurds fought alongside us in our war against the Islamic State--a.k.a. ISIS.)

Now, many thousands of ISIS prisoners are going free; the Kurds must make a choice between policing them, and fighting Turkey. Most are choosing the latter.

And, whereas Turkey is also a member state of NATO, I would hardly consider it to be an "ally"--or even a "frienemy," as the kids now say. It is governed by an authoritarian; and it has even purchased, recently, a Russian missile system. (I believe that the only reason that it was ever invited into NATO was because of its tangential position to Russia, as a sort of "buffer state.")

No, I would consider Turkey to be a total enemy--in the same class, in that regard, as Russia or China.

And I would wish to treat it accordingly.

 

He gave a dictator permission to slaughter. Everything is else chaff and flares creating noise and confusion, but this fact remains—he gave a dictator permission to slaughter, not out of spite or deal-making (though I’m not entirely convinced) but because he thought it was a stroke of political genius —I get to play hero by bringing troops home and stick Turkey with the ISIS hornet nest—without comprehending anything about what he was about to unleash—The full force of the Turkish military to annihilate the Kurds, the return of ISIS backed by Turkey, and the annexation of part of Syria into Turkey. Bolton knew. He warned Trump. Trump scoffed. Bolton resigned. Turkey invaded. The Kurds are dead meat. ISIS will return, NATO is weakened. And Trump still doesn’t have a clue. He’s an imbecile. 25 him.

 

Those soldiers are being pulled out, and he is discussing with Congress what action to take against Turkey.

 

Does this mean that any nation that does what's in the best interest of its people an enemy of the US?

Anyway Erdogan began distrusting the US when his Nato officers tried to kill him. Putin found out and saved his life. I wasn't sure if it was true, until I began putting 2 and 2 together. Putin's friend the philosopher and political scientist Alexander Dugan was stuck at the airport at Ankara during the coup, which would be just a little too coincidental. He must have been there to warn Erdogan.

 

The ME is nothing but a huge shade of gray. Don't try to figure it out or you will drive yourself nuts.

 

Should NATO countries be fighting against each other? Turkey had the invasion planned long before Trump made the decision to get the troops out. Now Russia is heading to northern Syria. We don't need to start a war with Russia.

 

The US is a NATO country. Should we fight them?

This is not our fight. I can't grasp how the alt left thinks we should be dying over there. Europe are the ones with the issue here (as Germany keeps claiming). We've trained their military's for decades. Time for them to step up.

Once again, why do my men need to die there?

 

Of course, but the biggest hurdle to oil production, any energy production in fact, is government regulation and taxes. And before you reply that you worked in that industry in the 70's or that your father did, I do NOW and have been for the last 20 years.

 

No we're not...

 

That was my question since both Turkey and the US are NATO countries. The US is not going to war with another NATO country to protect the Kurds which is why Trump is moving the troops out.