Maybe it's just me, but I think this is an interesting question.

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  1. TheGreatSatan

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    Anyone believe the Democrats wouldn't love to have a floor vote on impeachment if they had the votes to pass it?

    The truth is not enough Democrats believe their own propaganda to pass impeachment. That's why they are still investigating. Democrats are putting on this show to appease all the people they promised trump would be gone by now.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No! I don't know if they have the votes or not, but this is not about just passing impeachment. it's about showing the American people why impeachment is necessary.
     
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    How is doing everything behind closed doors showing why an impeachment is necessary?
     
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    Ofcourse they don't have the votes. Otherwise they would vote on it and make a public spectacle of it.

    If that was true they wouldn't be holding secret meetings. Not enough Democrats believe Democrat propaganda to pass impeachment. If they had a floor vote and lost, it would be hilarious...
     
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    You actually don't know why they do the initial questioning behind closed doors? Or are you just being disingenuous?
     
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    I have the right to do whatever I want as president,” Trump once said.

    So, Trump stonewalls the House investigating committees by not allowing testimonies or depositions from current and former staff members. In return, House Democrats stonewall Trump. They hold secret hearings and do not allow Republicans or their lawyers to enter the chambers.

    Then they add another impeachment charge -- obstruction of Congress, a federal offense.
     
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    That has little to nothing to do with my question. You claimed "it's about showing the American people why impeachment is necessary." I don't see how everything being filtered through the democratic talking points shows why impeachment is necessary.
     
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    That's hilarious! You think voting is a public spectacle?

    Oh you ain't never seen public spectacles yet.... Grab a seat! You're in for a big show!

    They most certainly would....
     
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    Another Giuliani associate has been arrested, making that a total of four.

    David Correia, 44, was named in an indictment with two Giuliani associates and another man arrested last week on charges they made illegal contributions to politicians and a political action committee supporting President Donald Trump.

    Rudy Giuliani is Trump’s personal lawyer. Trump has all the makings of a mob boss.

    Michael McKinley is testifying today behind closed doors as part of the House Democrats' impeachment probe -- less than a week after resigning as a senior adviser to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

    McKinley, a former US ambassador, planned to open his testimony by telling investigators that his resignation was driven by his concern that the Department's leadership was not supporting career foreign service officers. In the first hour of the testimony, McKinley specifically raised concerns about the removal of Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch from Ukraine, and how the State Department did little to protect her.

    Marie Yovanovitch defied the White House on Friday to testify before Congress, where she told lawmakers that Trump wanted her removed from her post, and Giuliani and associates were paid to make that happen.

    All of this follows the departure of another foreign policy expert, Fiona Hill, who decided to step down from her position in the Trump administration in August 2019. Hill,Trump's former top Russia adviser, provided a startling deposition Monday that detailed evidence that senior figures inside Trump's White House were deeply concerned that the activities by the President and those close to him could reach the level of illegal behavior.

    Trump was trying to advance his political interest trying to get an investigation of the Bidens started in Ukraine. Yovanovitch would not play along. Trump ordered her fired, and the pliant Pompeo did so instead of standing up for a career state department ambassador.

    McKinley was the Senior Advisor to the Secretary of State. He previously served as United States Ambassador to Brazil, Afghanistan, Colombia and Peru. He joined the Foreign Service in 1982, and now the valuable, highly experienced public servant is gone, another casualty of the Trump administration.
     
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    Adam Shifty should just have Trump arrested and jailed until he gets to the bottom of all this wrongdoing.
     
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    It has everything to do with your question...

    And I still don't believe that you're not just playing dumb.
     
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    They would give everyone in Congress a chance to explain why they are voting for or against. They won't do it because they don't have the votes.

    So you want to gain public support for impeachment by holding secret hearings. Sounds like something the Chinese Democrats would do in China.
     
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    Not at all. You are claiming this is educating the population. If it is done in secret, the population is only hearing what the democrats want them ot hear. At that point, it is no longer education. It is propaganda. You need to come up with a valid reason why the democrats are doing this investigation without a vote.
     
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    Congress representatives explaining their vote is not the "public spectacle" either.

    You think small.... Think big! ... No... Bigger! And when you've done that, think even bigger!
     
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    Sure.... :roll:

    Democrats seem to think holding secret hearings is the way to gain public support. Seems dumb.

    You should tell me your giant thought. Maybe it will make me see the light...
     
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    Yes. What Democrats and Republicans want them to hear, and not what they don't want them to hear. You're getting there... Now... what is the "thing" that neither Democrats, nor Republicans, nor Independents, nor patriotic people themselves don't want people to hear?

    Think! You can do it!
     
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    Coming from somebody who thinks that making Trump President is not dumb, that's a compliment for them.

    You shouldn't worry about it. Eventually you'll understand what the rest of us already know. You won't hear about it on wingnut media, though....
     
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    With secret meetings, we only hear what the democrats want us to hear. Think about it. You will figure it out eventually, if you try real hard.
     
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    You say you want public support for impeachment then act like what you know is some kinda secret. Enlightenment me. Tell me "what the rest of us know". I bet it's nothing. Prove me wrong.
     
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    I take back what I said. Looks like you won't figure it out until it explodes in your face.

    But you should know that mental exercise can help prevent Alzheimer's
     
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    Whine all you want.

    The Inquiry is legitimate and devastating

    Trump WILL be Impeached and he's freaking out
     
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    Oh no no no.... No secret at all. Very public!
     
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    You should try a little mental exercise. Maybe it would stop you from making stupid comments.
     
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    How do you know the inquiry will be devastating if it's secret?

    If Democrats believed their own propaganda they would have had a floor vote on impeachment long ago.
     
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    So it's like I said which is why you don't quote my whole post. You know nothing. You got nothing.
     

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