Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

What about GW? Your pic did not show up properly.

What does a pic of GW have to do with the fact that your world view like that of the Radical Islamist Extremists - directly opposed to that of the founding fathers.

 

Cool, now you can easily, justify terminating, a human life in process (call it "future murder") if you will.
So it's...different and stuff.

 

It is not murder in the present - nor in the future You are confusing what is - with what something "might be"

 

BUMP, why ignore the above?

 

You know that's an important distinction to make. First of all it was a born again christian that brought our nation out of slavery - the best and perhaps the finest republican in history, Abraham Lincoln. Secondly, yes, blacks were viewed as sub human by the democrats just like jews were viewed as subhuman by Hitler and just like unborn babies are subhuman in the eyes of the liberal left.






What does this mean? We will end abortion in this nation. And it's going to happen sooner than you might think.

 

To be honest Im impressed. It's not every day you hear a liberal talking about radical Islamic terrorism. Usually they cant even stomach the phrase. LOL

This was the quotation from the meme:

“While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”

 

Correct - glad that you now realize that "life liberty happiness" as per the founders - did not apply to the unborn.

Not at all like the zygote - which is the whole point. A zygote is a single human cell. Jews and Blacks are living humans.

If Radical Religious Extremists get their way - it may well happen - but I doubt that will happen. Most people still support a woman's right to control her reproductive process.

 

Perhaps that is because I am not a liberal - but truth be told - you need to get out more. Only extremist liberals tolerate the Islamist nutters.

Thanks for the quote - but it was Thomas who wrote the DOI - and nothing in your quote from Washington conflicts with Thomas's world view or addresses the topic in anyway.

Just because someone is a Christian does not make them an idiot. Many Christians belief in separation of Church and State.

You on the other hand have no such respect - your beliefs are the same as that of the Radical Islamist Extremists. Two sides of the same coin. You have no respect for the founders - or the founding principles ( which is likely because you don't understand them)

What is also true - is that you do not respect the teachings of Jesus. You are a CHINO

 

It SHOULD apply to the unborn

Are you a Trump supporter?

 

Why should it apply to the zygote ? This is the problem .. you make all these claims but never back them up with anything coherent.

The world is not as black and white as you like to paint it .. and extremism is not your friend.

That said - If it is between Trump and Hillary - Trump in a heartbeat - and if you go back on this forum you can find me stating this prior to the election - complete with my rational.

Are you a CHINO ?

 

Science knows when life starts and Im sure you do as well. Unborn children deserve nothing but protection from conception to death. Anything else and you go down the Hitler or the democratic road to slavery.

You cannot be subjective and play God and pick and chose who lives and who dies.

Unborn child=not a person
Jews=not a person
slaves=not a person

Ever heard of an abortion survivor?

I want you to meet Melissa Ohden



Now a mother, herself, Melissa has experienced first-hand what she calls the “intergenerational impact of abortion.” The reality is that abortion doesn’t just impact a woman’s life. It ends a child’s life and it forever changes the lives of everyone it touches, including women, men, extended family members, friends, and our communities.

Melissa’s biological mother was a 19 year old college student when she had a saline infusion abortion in 1977 that was meant to end Melissa’s life. Although her biological mother thought that she was less than five months pregnant when she had the abortion, the fact that Melissa survived and weighed almost 3 pounds indicates that her biological mother was much further along in her pregnancy than she realized. In fact, when Melissa obtained her medical records in 2007 that detail the abortion procedure that she survived, one of the first notations by a doctor after she survived was that she looked like she was approximately 31 weeks gestation! Despite the initial concerns that doctors had regarding her ability to survive, and the quality of life she would experience if she did, today Melissa is a healthy 34-year-old woman.

Although Melissa grew up knowing that she was adopted and loved, she didn’t find out the truth about being an abortion survivor until she was 14 years old. Needless to say, finding out the truth about her life changed her and now the world forever. Melissa ultimately went searching for answers about her survival and her biological family, and since 2007, has had contact with both sides of her biological family in varying degrees.

Copies of Melissa’s birth records, which chronicle the abortion attempt that was meant to end her life and more information about Melissa’s survival, her ministry, and her work to extend love and forgiveness to all who are impacted by abortion, including her own biological family, can be found on her personal website: www.melissaohden.com.

Melissa is a pro-life speaker and advocate who often appears on television and radio shows such as FoxNews, Focus on the Family, The 700 Club, 100 Huntley St., EWTN, Life News, and others. She is the subject of the award-winning documentary, A Voice for Life (see the Abortion Survivors in the News page for more information about A Voice for Life).

Read Melissa Ohden’s amazing story in her new book: You Carried Me

 

As I have said before in this thread I highly doubt that the founding father's would have envisioned a world where the right to "life" excluded unborn children. I don't know if you should laugh or cry.

Endowed by our creator. Meaning his creation is guaranteed life. Meaning unborn children have a right to life just as much as born children do.

 

Me -Scientist
You- should not talk about Science because you will embarrass yourself

Me - backs up my claims
You- could not argue your way out of a wet paper bag - and have yet to show that you even know what an argument is yet

Once again you are projecting your issues on to me. You are on the one going around putting words in God's mouth - not me.

 

Obama tolerated the Islamist nutters no problem, did you approve of Obama's policy? Was he a good president?

Care to explain how my world view is "similar" to the Islamist Extremists?

Right, you honestly think for a second that God approves of abortion? Remember to get your dispensations straight here.


Moral highground - preserve life
me













Dismember and kill unborn babies
You

 

When is new DNA created?

 

1) you have no clue what the founding Fathers were about - with respect to the founding principles. You can doubt all you like but - since you do this with everything that conflicts with your extremist beliefs - and have shown no ability for critical thinking and have no ability to address ideas or information that conflicts with your belief - what credibility does your opinion have ?

You should cry and then realize that breakdowns can lead to breakthroughs - then you should start trying to think for yourself (using the brain that God gave you) rather than blindly following man made fundamentalist extremist dogma - and start following the teachings of Jesus - like the founders did.

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Obviously God's creation is not guaranteed life. Cows are Gods creation are they not ? You come up with the most ridiculous nonsense sometimes.

The fact of the matter is that God created the world in such a way - as that humans must kill life in order to survive. You should ponder on that truth.

Lastly - for at least the 10th time now ... You running around crying " its a child, its a child" - does not make a zygote a child.

 

Here is another Abortion Survivor. Maybe one or two of these people will get through to your stone cold heart.

Josiah Presley



This is Josiah’s testimony, as posted on the Abolitionist Society of Oklahoma’s websitewww.abolishhumanabortion.com. To reach Josiah directly regarding his story of speaking engagements, he can be reached at: someonepresley@hotmail.com.

There was this woman in South Korea who found out she was pregnant. Well, two months into her pregnancy she decided to go in and have an abortion. A few months went by after she had had the abortion and she realized that there was a baby still growing in her. As it turned out, the abortion had failed. Well, the woman then decided to go ahead and let the child live and she put him up for adoption after he was born. The baby ended up being adopted by a family who lived in the United States. The baby was fine except he had a deformed left arm, probably caused by the failed abortion that the mother had. Anyways, he is active and does most anything that normal teenagers do. Who might this child be, you might be asking? Well he’s me, the writer of this article.

Now you might be wondering why I’m writing this article. Well, here is why. I would like to point out a few things. First, do you think that I would have wanted my mother to have that abortion and try to terminate me? Heck no! In fact, when my parents told me that my mother had had an abortion it built up some malice towards my birth mother in me. But I have since gotten over that and come to a place where I have forgiven her, thanks to the Lord. But it also gave me an appreciation for life. God saved me from dying a horrible death before I was even born.

So abortionists are always talking about women’s rights. Well what about babies’ rights? Or, like you talk about the women’s rights: what about the millions of little women killed each year by abortion?! Hmmm…what about their rights and the little boys rights? Do you think we want someone coming in trying to kill us? Well, anyways, to continue on to my other points.

I was adopted by a family living in a completely different country. This is for those of you saying “well what will happen to the children if we don’t abort them? Their mothers don’t want them.” Trust me, they will be adopted. My adopted family has twelve children, ten of which were adopted! They will be adopted! I mean, if we would stop funding the stuff to do abortions and put it towards making adoption fees lower, many would adopt because many who want to adopt can’t afford the high adoption fees and therefore can’t adopt. So those children will be adopted.

The fact that children growing inside mothers are being killed because they aren’t human is crap. What makes them any different from us besides the fact that they are innocent and can’t defend themselves against these huge abortion bullies killing them? So it is wrong that we are killing our completely innocent offspring. You don`t think that they are humans? Well, I differ with that thought because it was that same thinking that almost ended my life 15 years ago.

Josiah’s mother’s attempt to abort him is fully documented. (You can see documentation at the Abolitionist website listed above).

Did you know... Roe v Wade is a lie?

 

Once again voicing baseless suppositions with no merit. You sure you're not a liberal?

 

Are you a CHINO?

 

I disliked many of Obama's policies intensely - and viewed him as doing a complete 180 on his previously touted beliefs. He hated the founding principles - as do you. You and Obama have at least this much in common.

Islamists - by definition - Hate the founding principles = which are based on respect for individual liberty. They hate "Secularism" - separation of Church and State - and want to force their religious beliefs on others through physical violence (Law - Islamic Law in this case)

You also hate the founding principles - you hate secularism - you want to force your religious beliefs on others using physical violence (Law)

1) Unlike you - I do not put words in Gods mouth.
2) YHWH commands abortion - and the killing of children, babies and pregnant women
3) Which dispensations are you referring to ?

You must kill life to survive .. and you do so happily
A single human cell is not a baby.

 

We have been through this - quit repeating stuff that has already been addressed.

DNA is created at conception - The existence of human DNA does not mean a living human exists.

 

Not baseless at all.... just go read your posts. Its all there.

You want to force your religious beliefs on others using physical violence (Law) = make law banning abortion.

 

But the zygote is technically alive, right?

 

Right, because pregnancy is such a horror to bestow upon a women.

LOL @ your priorities

 

I follow the main teachings of Jesus - you on the other hand do not. In fact you do not even seem to know what they are in any detail.