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Trump Tells Crowd Ivanka Has Created 14 Million New Jobs

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  1. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about reading about the pledge to American workers program and understanding the meaning of the prediction based on the commitments of the 367 corporate participants.
     
    AFM, Nov 14, 2019
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    Ask Pelosi.
     
    AFM, Nov 14, 2019
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    To summarize you defend China and don’t know why Pelosi is sitting on the USMCA.
     
    AFM, Nov 14, 2019
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  4. Montegriffo

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    Which part of that explains how Ivanka created 14 million jobs?
    Where are these 14 million jobs?
     
    Montegriffo, Nov 14, 2019
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    But the pledge is NOT a pledge to create new jobs. It just isn’t. It isn’t even a pledge to do anything that the company wasn’t going to do anyway.
    The pledge can be for such things as work-based learning programs, continuing education, on the job training, re-skilling, programs that develop “soft skills” of employees. They can say they were going to provide on-the-job training over the next 5 years anyway, so they might as well sign the meaningless pledge and get “credit” for it.

    Yes, it can also be for new jobs and apprenticeships, but it is definitely not a pledge to create new jobs.

    And most importantly, it is not what Trump said. He said Ivanka had created 14 million new jobs. That’s just a lie.
     
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    To summarize... because you cannot talk about facts you want to change the subject
     
    ARDY, Nov 14, 2019
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    They are forecasted jobs.
     
    AFM, Nov 14, 2019
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    Yes, true. He said Ivanka has created 14 million jobs not that she may create 14 million jobs, or will create 14 million jobs.

    Remember that old Wendy's commercial Where's The Beef?
    Well Mr. Be-Esser-In-Chief , Where Are The Jobs?
     
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    PARTIZAN1, Nov 14, 2019
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    Of course it is. And the 14 million is a cumulative prediction. That is very clear from the totality of the comments. And again you are claiming that a prediction/forecast is a lie.
     
    AFM, Nov 14, 2019
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    How about you educating yourself about the pledge. It is NOT a pledge to create new jobs. It can even be a pledge to help re-skill employees that the company is firing!
     
    bx4, Nov 14, 2019
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    How about reading the text of the program ?? You are now claiming that all the 367 companies are lying. Breathtaking.
     
    AFM, Nov 14, 2019
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    No I’m not claiming the prediction is a lie. But it is not a problem ledge to create jobs.
    A company can pledge to train 20% of their workforce every year for the next 5 years in workplace health and safety. They can make a pledge about 100% of their existing workforce, fulfilling their pledge without ever hiring an extra person.
     
    bx4, Nov 14, 2019
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    Oh like a weather forecast. A weather forecast that is wrong....he he
     
    PARTIZAN1, Nov 14, 2019
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    So Ivanka hasn't created 14 million jobs?
    So Trump was in fact lying when he said ''Ivanka has created 14 million jobs?
    Finally you admit that 14 million jobs have not been created.
    Only took 17 pages but you got there in the end.
     
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    Review the tape again. The meaning of the 14 million is obvious.
     
    AFM, Nov 14, 2019
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    How do you know a forecast is wrong ??? It’s Thursday. Rain is predicted for Saturday. You are claiming that a forecast is a lie.
     
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    So why did Trump claim Ivanka created 14 million jobs and ten said "14 million and going up....".
     
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    We will know in 5 years.
     
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    More companies keep pledging jobs as time goes by. The total pledged was 10 million in the next 5 years a few months ago.
     
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    Nope. I'm not saying they are lying. You need to educate yourself.

    Go ahead and quote the text of the pledge for us. Because the Consumer Technology Association says that their members can sign the pledge if they offer:
    "* Training opportunities can include: Apprenticeships, work-based learning programs, continuing education, on-the-job training, re-skilling, new jobs, programs that develop the "soft skills" of your employees, etc"

    https://www.cta.tech/Membership/Mem...force-Council/Pledge-to-Americas-Workers.aspx

    It is NOT a promise to create new jobs. It is NOT a promise to do anything that they weren't going to do anyway.

    Man up and accept that Trump lied.
     
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    Short answer: because he lied.
     
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    Created is past tense.
    Show me the jobs Jerry.
     
    Montegriffo, Nov 14, 2019
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    We are not stupid, we can read we can listen to the audio. Next time whoever created this thread do not use the title "Trump tells crowd Ivanka created 14 million jobs". Use a link that is not a lying link.
     
    PARTIZAN1, Nov 14, 2019
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    The title of the OP and article is a lie??
     
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    It’s right there in front of you - new jobs. Are you claiming that this program will create no new jobs ?? Trump’s prediction is 14 million in 5 years. How do you know that is inaccurate ?? BTW as workers become more effective and efficient they move up creating job openings. Perhaps you didn’t realize that.
     
    AFM, Nov 14, 2019
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