WATCH LIVE: Public Impeachment Hearings (Vindman/Williams)

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Lying is perpetual, once you start you BETTER BE GOOD AT IT, because at some point you lose track and screw yourself..
     
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    It's his opinion, not a fact. We have the transcript and it proves no demands were made.

    Schiff and Vindman were caught telling lies and committing perjury on at least several occasions.
     
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    Demand vs Perfect.....I don't really care how it is characterized by the different people... Congress will determine based on the transcript, not the characterizations...
     
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    Jordan just nailed Vindman as a leaker and confirmed that Vindman went OUTSIDE his chain of Command.

    Schiff trying to cover up for Vindman but unknowingly confirmed that Vindman talked to the Whistleblower.

    Schiff caught lying and deflected.

    Schiff has to be the dumbest person in that room. Besides Vindman. Maybe.
     
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    An opinion is not a lie or perjury
     
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    Ya the CBS changed their headline and removed the demand too :)
     
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    Yes, he does. Schiff accidentally outed him saying the whistle-blower can't be named when Jordan asked him who he talked to after the phone call. lol
     
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    That did not happen in any way, shape, or form.
     
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    Probable the same reason you didn't you didn't want Obama's direct staff testifying in the Benghazi or guns to cartel hearings, why didn't you have a problem holder defying a subpoena?
     
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    Because if this brave soldier doesn’t know who the WB is he can’t sure he wouldn’t out him. Common sense.
     
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    Yes, it did. I just watched it. I just Schiff jump in and try to protect Vindman and his lies about not speaking to the leaker. aka, the "whistle-blower".
     
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    He does know, he lied about it.
     
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    Well we can see him to the long list of people republicans accused of perjury who trumps DOJ refuses to charge with a crime lol
     
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    This is hysterical.... It's very rare that you use the word bribery when you commit bribery.... even my wife, who is just coming into the room to eat lunch is laughing at this ridiculous strategy...
     
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    BREAKING:

    Confirmed: Bribery has been attributed to VP Joe Biden in sworn testimony from the released 10 transcripts.
     
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    Ratcliffe just nailed it that bribery is a nothing but a scam as it was never even asked during the initial inquiries!
     
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    The "same reason" being that Trump and Obama wanted to keep evidence of potential wrongdoing hidden.

    Thanks.
     
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    You are accusing the president (now) of bribery, yet they never asked ANYONE if the president committed bribery...
     
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    Bribery was "attributed to" Trump during sworn testimony Friday.
     
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    Would you like to know why Ratcliffe did not just ask either witness if they agreed that bribery took place?
     
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    That is false
     
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    Radcliffe just hit it out of the park.
     
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    I think this talking point is about to blow up in their face.

    If Ratcliffe is confident that bribery did not take place, then why not ask for their opinion?

    On the other hand, any witness who might be willing to agree is about to be asked more explicitly whether the behavior exhibited by Trump and others could be interpreted as bribery.
     
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    He hasn't been accused of anything yet... that's the current working theory of the investigation, which most investigations develop during the investigation.

    In this case, the full extortion scheme will be put together from the totality of witnesses... some witnessed the phone call, and some witnessed the aid being withheld... We haven't fully gotten to that part yet...

    In other words, other than possibly Sondland, we probably won't hear from a single witness who know both parts of the scheme due to stonewalling.
     
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    And, he countered with his last evaluation from his boss. IOW, the charge was debunked in the hearing.
     

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