Donald Trump Previews ‘Historic’ Inspector General Report Going to ‘Highest Levels’ of White House

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  1. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

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    We call that falsifying info, and more info about that altered document that has come out which IMO yes, bares much direct impact. If someone falsifies a claim(and if that claim is to say, one is a terrorist for "example"), and based on the "reputation" of the FBI, it would very much be believed in this rubber stamp court.

    Then yes, it was very material to the outcome. Not only that, but it was slander of the worst kind and of an obvious malicious purpose against US Person Carter Page.

    The abuses are far more tangibly worse than we were able to uncover via investigations and FOIA. FISA is a virus affecting our nation.
     
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    I wonder where you obtained this "information?" The "fiasco" was a Constitutional act carried out by the House of Representatives following rules largely written by Republicans. So if there was a "fiasco" blame it on the red team.

    Far from moving away from the impeachment, the Dems are moving ahead with the Judicial committee portion of construction articles of impeachment. Adam Schiff did a masterful job of maintaining order and moving the House forward. He will be around for a long time.
     
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    Sure, as soon as the Third in Line to the US Presidency, Speaker Nancy Pelosi does one of the following:

    1) Takes VP Pence's name out of the conversation, despite Pence not being on the July 25th call or having anything to do with the contrived controversy of the hour.

    2) Recuses herself from the vote or 3

    3)Most preferably, she steps down.

    This is Pelosi's Enabling Act moment, her Reichstag fire but she's neither popular enough or savvy enough to pull it off.
     
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    Another load of hyperbolic nonsense that abjectly FAILS to address the FACT that Nunes was INVOLVED in the CRIME that he is INVESTIGATING!
     
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    I vote for #1 myself.... Pence's name really isn't IN the conversation at this point. What are you worried about?? VP Mayo isn't in any real trouble here.... Sure, he could have pulled the fire alarm, but nobody did so he won't get singled out..

    She's certainly not going to do #2 or #3...
     
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    I agree fully... Schiff did a mostly fantastic job, including most of his daily closings..

    His biggest mistake (IMHO) was telling some witnesses how they needed to handle the attempts to out the WB... these were professionals and they can certainly handle tools like Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan.

    Some of my favorite moments were after turning control over to Nunes, Nunes spits out 6 minutes of nonsense, and Schiff goes (without apparent trace of sarcasm) 'I thank the gentleman'. What a hoot...

    I have to imagine that Nancy will make Schiff her primary impeachment manager, over Nadler or anybody else... thoughts?
     
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    You mean like modifying a Ukranian call transcript??

    Or using a sharpie on a hurricane map?

    Deep state idiocy debunked

    Sorry
     
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  8. AmericanNationalist

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    You have any proof that Trump "modified" the transcript? Even Morrison testified that it was largely accurate(as did Jennifer.)

    That aside, it's supposed to be a felony(perjury) to lie to a court. But hey, as long as it goes against a Trump Associate and/or Trump himself, it's perfectly fine.
     
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    Not fine and why the employee will be fired

    But confirmation there is no deep state and everything was legal

    And yes, there is proof that the transcript had something removed
     
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    To me, it's clear that the House Speaker is engaged in a power play(especially given her derogatory comments such as "imposter")
    She envisioned the scenario where she could take out both Trump/Pence, propel herself to the Office of the Presidency.

    That's the only reason for naming Pence as she did. I'd love to be on the House floor and call her out on it, get her to take any action to assuage my concern that this isn't for HER political benefit.
     
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    It's certainly interesting what people see and don't see.

    Question for you. When Vindman testified he said that he didn't know who the whistleblower was, yet when asked who else Vindman had told, because he testified that he had told another person, Schiff and Vindmans lawyer objected to Jordan's line of questioning saying that it was an attempt to find out who the whistleblower was. Yet how could that be when Vindman testified that he didn't know who the whistleblower was? If he doesn't know who the whistleblower is, then why did Schiff, who supposedly also doesn't know who the whistleblower is, object to finding out who else Vindman had told after Vindman had said that he doesn't know who the WB is?
     
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    If you think this Ukraine extortion is being pursued to get Nancy Pelosi in as President for 1 year, you might want to revisit your decision makig process...
     
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  13. Egoboy

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    That's 2 questions, both very long.. I'll parse them out later, when I'm not on my phone.
     
  14. AmericanNationalist

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    Whoever said she'd respect the 2020 elections? There's only ONE reason you engage in that kind of scheme. I compared it to 1932 for valid reasons. I'm calling her out on her crap. She's decided to go for broke and if she can make herself queen, that's awesome.

    We should have predicted this when she argued that the House is "equal" to the Presidency(she forgot the 'separate' part that is important.) She has dangerous delusions of grandeur and is operating on those.
     
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    There should be disclaimers on statements like these that say something like "paid for by the Kalifornia Democratic Committee".... LOL
     
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    It's like a riddle.. you have Vindman 6x, whistleblower 5x

    But the answer to both of your questions is the exact same - Vindman was told not to disclose who he talked to in the IC, because it could lead to the WB, not that Vindman spoke directly to the WB.

    Not that confusing.. although frankly, I always figured Vindman was one of the direct contacts for the WB...
     
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    Really?

    That's doesn't sound a little paranoid to you?
     
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    The House/Congress is equal to the Presidency... they just ignored that for the 1st 2 years of the Trump administration...
     
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    Why?

    That would be dumb
     
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    Perhaps you're right. Too obvious.. huh?:roflol:
     
  21. AmericanNationalist

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    No it's not, it has a separate function that cannot and should not intervene in the executive, and vice versa. Pelosi is not Trump's equal, certainly not from a moral standpoint either. Imagine being House Speaker and storming out of meetings, wouldn't be me.
     
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    There's a belief that Trump wanted to "get political dirt on the Bidens", that's incredibly paranoid as well.
     
  23. Egoboy

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    For somebody with your forum name, you should know better than that.. They were given explicit permissions to "intervene in the executive" and we are all witnessing one of them now...

    Evidence of Nancy "storming out of meetings"? Anybody leaving any meeting with Trump is bound to be perturbed by President Toddler, but I'm sure she left with her normal class...
     
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    Twice, she stormed out of a meeting(actually before the meeting began) as she claimed the POTUS was 'covering up something', this is the reason we don't have an infrastructure bill. Then she stormed out of the meeting with the military brass regarding the President's excellent strategy to create the conditions of a ceasefire and protect our troops.

    And no, they weren't given that explicit permission. The framers didn't want this kind of dog pony show, it's what they wanted to prevent.
     
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    Really?? Is that the play now? Impeachment is invalid? Best of luck

    SNIP
    The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

    The House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

    The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.
    ENDSNIP

    And you still provided ZERO evidence of what I asked for... thus I can freely ignore everything else you said...
     
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