The Defense Rests: GOP Leaders Reportedly Considering Not Calling a Single Witness

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MrTLegal, Dec 10, 2019.

  1. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    What crime?


    Taking away people's rights to prevent crime. Is an evil concept.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2019
  2. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2018
    Messages:
    20,312
    Likes Received:
    8,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Is it now?
    Isn't that what laws are all about?
     
  3. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2019
    Messages:
    15,050
    Likes Received:
    18,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You may not like the rules, but there are rules. Several articles have been published about this. I've included just one of them below.


    The rules: "Senate rules say the chamber must be in session six days a week during a trial unless the leaders write a resolution changing the schedule. Senators also aren’t allowed to speak in the chamber during the proceedings."

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/18/mcconnell-senate-impeachment-trial-2020-071377

    House Republicans are trying to pass legislation forcing the 2020 Dem candidates to recuse themselves from voting. Of course, that bit won't pass...because it is in the house.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...2020-democrats-recuse-impeachment-trial-trump
     
  4. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    No, not at all. Not even kinda close..

    Laws are to establish rules to govern society and to establish punishment for people who break them..

    It a logical impossibility for laws to prevent crime.
     
  5. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    At the same time that Trump pressured Ukraine to announce an investigation against Joe Biden, Trump's own internal polling showed that he would lose to Biden by double digits.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  6. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    41,095
    Likes Received:
    26,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I am afraid of letting a guy who tried to cheat in the election to take place in that election without even attempting to hold him to account.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  7. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    That's your opinion
     
  8. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2018
    Messages:
    20,312
    Likes Received:
    8,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    When you lock up the bank robber, he usually isn't going to rob any banks.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  9. william kurps

    william kurps Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2019
    Messages:
    5,041
    Likes Received:
    1,872
    Trophy Points:
    113

    How did he cheat in an election? The left is doing the same thing right now what they are accusing trump of doing, cheating in a election
     
  10. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2019
    Messages:
    15,050
    Likes Received:
    18,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Biden is the worst campaigner in America and he is losing his mental faculties. He's got a 40 year track record of being on the wrong side of opinion of just about every foreign policy ever made. Now he claims he had no idea that his son working for a corrupt Ukrainian company while he was point person for relations with the Ukraine might even look bad.

    The most ridiculous decision that Pelosi and Schiff made was to focus impeachment charges on Ukraine....unless they want to knock Biden out of the running while they were taking swipes at overthrowing Trump's election. Poor Biden. Collateral damage....or a planned take down by his own party?

    Who thinks that Donald Trump needs a Ukranian version of the fabricated Steele Dossier to take out Biden? That's just ludicrous.
     
    Thought Criminal likes this.
  11. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2018
    Messages:
    20,312
    Likes Received:
    8,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  12. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    When you lock up the bank robber before he robs a bank it makes you evil
     
  13. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    15,854
    Likes Received:
    11,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Biden has never won a difficult campaign like Trump, he loafed in the Senate for decades in a safe Dem state and was chosen to be VP by Barry. You can tell by how he breaks down when asked a normal political question, he's used to getting nothing but softballs from the corrupt MSM.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2019
    LoneStarGal likes this.
  14. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2018
    Messages:
    20,312
    Likes Received:
    8,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    But he did rob the bank. He is just in jail awaiting trial.
    Slick, huh.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  15. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2012
    Messages:
    15,854
    Likes Received:
    11,608
    Trophy Points:
    113
  16. william kurps

    william kurps Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2019
    Messages:
    5,041
    Likes Received:
    1,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2019
  17. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2019
    Messages:
    15,050
    Likes Received:
    18,807
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The Durham report may provide a clearer picture of which party tried to sway an election with the cooperation of top figures in our supposedly unbiased intelligence department. So far we have "No collusion" on Trump's side, and "There were definitely improprieties" on the other side.
     
    Thought Criminal likes this.
  18. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    57,523
    Likes Received:
    31,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump wants to make a show out of it, I'm sure, and call witnesses, whereas the GOP Senators will just want to put an end to this as quickly as possible. We'll see, I guess.
     
  19. william kurps

    william kurps Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2019
    Messages:
    5,041
    Likes Received:
    1,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I always find it so amusing that the Democrats wanted to impeach Trump before he was elected and surprised we dont give a damn about a kangaroo court.
     
    Lil Mike likes this.
  20. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    He didn't rob the bank until he is found guilty
     
  21. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,394
    Likes Received:
    39,279
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There are no crimes in the Articles of Impeachment which only vindicates him and proves the 3 years of you ranting about crimes has been a bunch of hot air.
     
  22. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,394
    Likes Received:
    39,279
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Using envoys is not an impeachable offense and is not one of the articles. The only "scheme" has been the Democrats trying to create one.
     
  23. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2018
    Messages:
    20,312
    Likes Received:
    8,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  24. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2018
    Messages:
    20,312
    Likes Received:
    8,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Maybe. But what the IG report did do was shoot down all of Trump's conspiracy theories.

    The investigation was warranted.
    There was no political bias involved in it.
    No wire taps in Trump tower.
    No spies in the campaign.
    No dossier starting the investigation.
    No overthrow of the government.
    No entrapment.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  25. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Democrats must be spooked. Nadler abruptly ended markup and announced the vote today without any notice to the minority. The dems abuse of power will not end well.
     

Share This Page