I think we should destroy Native American reservations!

Look I am a liberal but it infuriates the silent majority and I to have people shed crocodile tears for a losing side in a war.
Should nazis and confederates have a reservation? Many native tribes were savages scalping victims and practicing cannibalism.
To whitewash the history of native tribes and present them as goody two shoes peacemakers to satiate an anti white male agenda is malarkey.
We’re native Americans victims of some horrible things, yes but so were the nazis and confederates. To win a war against evil you have to do horrible things.
Not saying natives are born evil but their culture was evil. Best thing to do is to assimilate them into English culture rather than coddle them with a whitewashed variant of a savage culture as a safe space.

some cultures are just better than others. We are all human and the same. But like I said why cling to the past?

 

I disagree with everything you just said..

Ohh and yes Natives were born evil, just like the English Germans, French and every other human being.

 

IIRC those reservations were primarily granted in exchange for an end to hostilities with colonists and FedGov. The Nazi's and Confederates surrendered unconditionally, which is why there is neither a Nazi Germany remnant nor a Confederacy remnant anywhere today. The Natives surrendered in exchange for land treaties. They 'lost', but without being wiped out because they sued for peace from a position with some strength.

 

I agree with this post (don’t faint Robert).

 

Take the Comanche. They were here long before whites, or Hispanics. They considered anyone else hunting buffalo upon the vast lands they ruled, or practicing agriculture on their lands as an act of war against them.

Because agriculture took away food from their buffalo, and the buffalo were their food, clothing, and shelter, the best of all mounted warriors in the New World made war on anyone who took these life essentials away from them. They didn't want to change their way of life or give up their land. But eventually the white man took all from them and gave them poor, undesirable land called reservations, better than nothing as man must have ground to set his feet upon. Some have assimilated, many have not. I don't know that there is any solution. You can make somebody go through the motions of assimilation by using force on them, but you can't really force them assimilate in the heart and mind.

imo if you can't have a large range of buffalo to hunt what the USA offers is a pretty good deal if you want to work for a good life.

After the Confederates surrendered they were allowed to return to their previous homes, not marched off to reeducation camps and sequestered there for more than a century.

There has never been a human culture that has not been somewhere on the evil scale -- and there never will be. The best that can be done is to minimize the natural tendency of the human condition toward evil and violent crime. There will never be a perfection of man in this universe.

 

Our government made treaties and initiated them...so we decided this long ago. I dont agree with the liberal ....worshiping of indian culture as holy while demonizing our pioneer families that founded America but that's another topic. And reservations are poison for the tribes.....oklahoma indians do well because they aren't hindered by reservations.

 

Finding common ground is my favorite

 

Why were the native Americans called savages? Answer: It was a government propaganda name assigned them so as to make it OK to slaughter the tribes.

 

The savagery and torture inflicted by many Indian tribes on whites and enemy tribes is well documented. Men, women and children were skinned alive, roasted alive, and buried alive with only their heads uncovered and eyelids cut off. They were castrated alive and staked out on fire ant hills. Many Woodland and plains Indian tribes had this saveragy ingrained in their culture. Daniel Boone's 17 year old son was tortured to death. This is not just "propaganda" but truth that needs facing.

 

Unless the course of history exempts them, our descendants will someday be native-Americans. Unfortunately, that won't be until after they have been violently dispossessed of this land. Indeed, we, ourselves, will be then remembered quite differently than we are portrayed currently. After our descendants are violently dispossessed of this land, we will be remembered as native-Americans.

 

On the other hand they were technologically challenged and so made the price very high for a victory over them. Their choice was not to go gently into the night.

Now it's done and the hands of time cannot be turned back.

I really admire a twelve-year-old Indian boy who made his bow and his arrows from nature and could dispatch ten arrows accurately into a group of enemy before they could reload. Wonderful, fierce, unwavering, fearless warriors fighting for their people with all their being. That boy had gotten his first horse when he was five and had to ride it then or be berated in front of the people as a coward. All of life was boot camp or cavalry advanced school for them.

The native American fighting men's techniques of fighting and killing their enemy were absolutely beautiful. They made killing glorious.

 

Torture was deeply ingrained in tribal culture before whites stepped into this country. Cutting off the breasts of indian women and other incidences by whites from few bad apples created an outcry from our culture....which is appalled by such actions. It's good to face the real differences.

And throwing out the race card in the face of facts is disgusting.

 

There is a lot to admire, but worshiping indians while demonizing the people who created this country is simply wrong.

 

They do not ignore nearly to the extent that you ignore the exact same sorts of behaviors by those we dispossessed.

 

There's no need to demonize any culture that ultimately was victorious over another culture.

How they got their victory is irrelevant. Victory is victory.

Onward.

Prepare and train to vanquish your next attacker.

Do not go gently into the night.

 

At the same time American Indian tribes were skirmishing against each other, the European tribes of France, Italy, Germanic areas and Britain were in the middle of over 1,000 years of near constant warfare. They burned people at the stake for heresy. They had entire dungeons for torture.

The average battle between American Indian tribes resulted in under a dozen casualties. Napoleon killed thousands in each battle.

Who was the most barbaric?

 

Torture was deeply ingrained in humans before white torturers set foot in this country.

And, NO, at the time, torturing "savages" did not cause an outcry.


Slaughtering peaceful encampments, children, babies, old people, women was NOT done by a "few bad apples"...

 

It doesn't matter who was the most barbaric. Whoever meets their Waterloo is vanquished and the victors move history onward.

The hands of time cannot be turned back.

Onward.

 

OK, you and I agree !!!

Good post and it should have shut down this racist thread ,...but unfortunately they are allowed to spread their crap ...

 

But I NEVER ignored it....so you're wrong again...

 

When Americans were made aware of white of atrocities there was an outcry. Where do you think this indian worshiping came from? Compassion and standards of treatment. Instead of obliterating the tribes we negotiated with them....when we could have stomped them out and murdered them all...which is what the indian tribes would have done if they were victorious.

So I would say Europeans were less barbaric.

 

Really? At the same time that the Indians were fighting their last battles, the Americans were in a Civil War that killed over 600,000 of their fellow citizens. And over the next 80 years those same “enlightened” Europeans would engage in two world wars that would kill millions.

Try again.

 

Onward.

 

You are totally off topic. Human beings engage in war. Start another thread if that is what you wish to talk about.

 

War is good. War has advanced humanity positively.