Woman was denied morning-after pill because of pharmacists' beliefs: Lawsuit

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  1. Polydectes

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    By refusing to do his job and refusing to resign. If I ran a deli that served ham and a Muslim employee refused to serve it for religious reasons I'd fire him. It's the same thing.

    no it's not it's Stone simple. if it's against your religion to prescribe a certain medicine don't work at pharmacies that prescribe that medicine.

    It is not the pharmacy duty to turn away customers because you have a religious belief.
    yes some people are *******s again if you can't prescribe a medicine that your pharmacy sells because of your religion it is your duty to resign.
    what pharmacists could have quit. It's a bit hypocritical to sit here and say you don't approve of something because of religion and then work for a company that goes against your religious please I don't know why someone would do that.

    Why not just not be a low hanging fruit?
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    Wait you are comparing a Ham sandwich to abortion?

    Uhm you do know some Muslims throw gays off of roofs right?


    You cant force a employee to go against one beliefs or fire him for it.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps you could get a dictionary or study up on law?....Maybe Biology?
     
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    First of all girl and guy are correct ways to distinguish between genders. Whether shes grown or not doesnt make a difference if someone calls her a girl. It's not even the slightest bit insulting. Assuming I meant something negative by it is insulting.

    The article doesnt say whether or not the pharmacy agrees or disagrees with the pharmacists views. So it is possible they agree or dont agree either way it's not illegal. It doesnt make a difference if she had been doing business with them for years and that's another assumption of yours that didnt need to be made.

    He didnt decide to judge her he refused to sell her something. How dare you assume he decided what was best for a grown woman! He chose to do what he believe is right and no one is able to take that from him. We all have choices everyday. Only we decide if they are wrong.

    If cvs was the only place that sold plan b then I would completely agree that because of their monopoly they are required to sell but they don't so quit tell me that her right to buy the contraceptive trumps his right now to sell it. It's the same as freedom of speech.

    Even if it was against the law he still has the right to make a choice that would land him in jail. End of story.
     
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  5. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    no I'm comparing selling a product to selling a product.
    yeah some Christians exterminate gays too what's your point?

    Yes you can. If it is a bona fide occupational qualification to fill prescriptions and someone refuses it doesn't matter the reason they are not meeting the standard you can fire them.

    You do not have to damage or sink your business because you have a employee that wants to force their beliefs on your customers.
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    How about a bible for you?

    Mans law dont mean much to me, it blows in the wind who ever is in charge.
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    LMFAO, so you can now force someone to do something against ones own free will in the land of the free?





    That's Authoritarianism..



    He didn't knock on her door she came to him.


    And read Minnesota pharmacist regulations, yes they can, legally




    What's next are you going to say you can force someone to change a flat tire, do your taxes?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have a couple Bibles and several other official dogma books and was raised in the faith until about 12. "Mans" law is what we have unless you enjoy confined spaces.....rent is free though.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought "Mans Law" didn't mean much to you?
     
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    Uhm ok so one doesn't know murder is wrong with couple of bibles you have?

    Would you like to find Jesus christ today to comprehend those bibles ...Start with Roman's 10:9


    Back to topic, I find it hilarious people call others authoritarianism, but it's an action she went to him with a hit list and now has a lawsuit for sex discrimination


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    william kurps Banned

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    It doesn't, like I said it goes in the wind. What's legal today can be illegal tomorrow.

    But today what he did was legal
     
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    No you can't, but you can fire them for failure to obey company policy. Even if a billion company policy is against your religion.




    yes what you described is authoritarianism. However seeing you must employ someone can't perform the tasks you said for them is authoritarian too


    But he is an employee of CVS
    yes they can legally what? Fire somebody for refusing to do their job even if they're refusing for religious reason I know that's what I've been saying.



    I didn't say you could force anyone to do anything I'm arguing that you can't. You cannot require an employer to stop providing a product just because you have a religious disagreement with it. you can't force a business to lose customers because you turn them away over your religious views.

    you are the authoritarian you're the one saying we should be able to force people to do things we want them to do.
     
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    From what I can tell the main character in my versions did more killing than anyone, and "Murder" is a legal term (mans laws again) used when discussing the death of born humans. She went to a doctor for legal care and was refused on religious grounds.
     
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    I don't think anyone's saying that it's not legal. But there's no law against suing CVS over it. And there is no law against firing the employee over it.
     
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    Again I understand some people are jerks. But the pharmacist does not have a right to a job at CVS pharmacy.
     
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    OMGAWD! OF COURSE there was no pregnancy, she wasn't pregnant!!!!!


    It's the morning after pill...one takes it to KEEP FROM GETTING PREGNANT!!!

    GOODGAWD! LOOK IT UP!!!!!!



    Now, WHAT "MURDER" are you talking about?

    You keep bringing up murder...WHO is being murdered??????

    Why can't you answer that?? YOU brought it up???
     
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    Religious freedom do have boundaries and it is the confines of oneself, if it is enforced into other individuals then it is already considered breaching the rights of others and is blatantly unlawful. Just practice your religion and be a good person with it and don't practice tyranny just because one thinks your religion is right and suitable for humanity, that is wrong.
     
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    If the person is a tow truck operator, the Republicans think it's ok for this worker to leave a stranded motorist in the road if the tire is black?

    Hey, my God says it's against Gods Law for a Believer to be submit to temperatures lower than 50 degrees! Or to work in the rain!!!

    And if I refuse this work and the owner fires me, I guess its OK to sue the owner for lost wages?

    Republicans are nuts....
     
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    It is not bona fide occupational qualification. Only 3 states have passed such a law. And in more than 3 states they have passed laws saying a person can do exactly what the pharmacist did. Please get your facts straight.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=can...droid-verizon&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

    If the business supports their moral beliefs then they can do whatever they want. You are make an awful lot of assumptions.
     
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    For a pharmacist to distribute pharmaceuticals? Really?
    A law that forbids employers from firing an employee for refusing to serve the consumer
    I don't recall saying it was illegal. Just that CVS can fire him.

    Sure they can. CVS is the business, not the pharmacist.
     
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    A pharmacist doesnt have to if he/she doesnt want to.
     
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    No she doesn't a waiter doesn't have to wait on you either, a doctor doesn't have to operate on you, and a mechanic doesn't have to fix your car. But if a waiter doesn't wait on you when he's told to or a doctor doesn't operate on you when he's told to or mechanic doesn't fix your car when he's told to they all can be fired.
     
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    Huh CVS? He was a pharmacist/ pastor of a local pharmacy
     
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    Told to? You tell me to do something on my job I would tell the person to take a hike if I didn't agree on.

    Safety first....

    What's wrong with some LWs authoritarianism ?

    Many times I told mangers to **** off they didn't know what the hell they were doing.
     
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    1999?

    What did girls do before 1999?
     

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