Will Americans resist seizure of private property by the Trump regime?

The RINOs of Trumpery are now seizing the private property of Americans (State intrusion that the phonies had falsely insisted Mexico would pay for) in a flagrant instance of Big Government tyranny that is repulsive to conservative Americans. The entrepreneurial initiative of the private sector is being savaged by the Trump land grab.

 

Think TVA and the greater good..

 

Harkening back to 1933 is a feeble attempt to justify the Trump regime's seizing private property today. No one pretends that Trump's "Big Government" intrusion will yield such enormous benefits.

Most undocumented immigrants do not trespass the Southern border, and if the boondoggle (that Trump had lied about Mexico paying for) were ever imposed upon the region, more of those folks would simply opt for the more popular means.

The TVA was founded to provide general economic development to the depressed region through power generation and economic development. It currently provides electricity to approximately ten million Americans.

Texas landowners dig in on private-property rights as Trump visits border

Texas judge orders halt in construction of privately funded border wall.

 

Imminent domain is an occassionally necessary function of govt. However it should be a very expensive and laborious process. The current 'fair market value' stipulations arent anough. Too often the govt takes more than it needs for the project, and cronies end up buying it back for pennies on the dollar and selling for vast profits.

Anyone forced to sell their land to the govt should be paid whatever the land is worth plus any economic loss (increase in value) of the land for a time into the future (say, 10 years), plus all costs of relocating. Basically, the govt should get screwed in the deal by design, to prevent it from being practiced except when absolutely necessary.

As far as the wall is concerned, I can't see the aquisition of a strip of land wide enough for a wall and a strip of pavement to really be a cause for alarm. In most cases the property owner would be happy to settle with an easement in exchange for the heightened security, and in the rare cases they would refuse, buying them land of greater value somewhere else in a deal they would accept voluntarily will be worth the cost.

 

I agree with you points on what should be the costs of taking private land from US citizens.

I doubt your assessment of the amount of land that would be impacted by the wall. Citizens would lose the land the wall is on and anything made inaccessible to them. Large swaths of land will be needed. Many cases may result in what’s left no longer capable of serving the original purpose of the land. This won’t be cheap for the federal government and I predict it will be the downfall of the project.

 

1. The state of eminent domain law in the U.S. is far more a consequence of large Democrat-governed cities than anything else. If you don't like the law of the land in its current iteration, take it up with the mostly Democrats who have made it that way over the years. Trump had -0- to do with prevailing eminent domain law. I missed all the threads on the eminent domain condemnations all across the country DAILY, what an "outrage" those seizures are. It's only interference with a rotten, transparent Democrat scheme among so many that raises the alarm about "property rights." Not fooling anyone with this any more. Keep peddling the horseshit though, hilarious.

2. Any narrative that any government is seizing property anywhere in the U.S. without acknowledging the requirement that owners must be compensated is a lie narrative intended to deceive.

3. We aren't talking about valuable prime real estate here of the type taken ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY DAILY, but scrub land. Any narrative that doesn't make that distinction is a lie narrative intended to deceive.

4. If there is a slam dunk case for any country or government exercising eminent domain, it's on the country's borders, and especially in this case where drugs, human trafficking are RAMPANT.

5. Sorry Complex hacks and parasites, the Wall is getting built whether you like it or not, no matter how you attempt to obstruct, propagandize and whine about it.

OP whiffs as usual regardless of the amount of unintelligible gibberish wrapped around the "topic."

 

One of the few areas where eminent domain is legitimate would be in cases involving national defense.

 

Think $250B Progressive's illegals have cost the country this year. Thing of the American lives you snuffed out for a few stinking illegal votes. Then you can go up and fight off the NYC police as they confiscate scooters from your poor illegals who are just trying to earn a living. Then you can think of Gov. Northam calling the National Guard to confiscate property from private citizens.

No doubt there will be a few fascist progressives along the US border wanting to make a stink because stink they do. Think of fascist progressive poop maps.

 

Did you just make all that up?

 

Here's your very own poop map. Can't vouch for when it was updated.


Gun Confiscation Comes to Virginia
See what happens when a formerly great red state turns very blue?
https://spectator.org/gun-confiscation-comes-to-virginia/
Take a look at the progressive fascist who led the charge.

Gov. Cuomo vetoes bill legalizing e-bikes and e-scooters
By Bernadette Hogan and David Meyer

December 26, 2019
https://nypost.com/2019/12/26/gov-cuomo-vetos-bill-legalizing-e-bikes-and-e-scooters/

You can take it from there.

BTW. Are you on welfare?

 

No idea what a poop map is, so you’ll have to provide some context.
The anti-gun legislation you’re pointing to will likely not pass, and if it is the heavily right leaning SCOTUS will shoot it down in a heartbeat. Save the hyperventilating for things that have a remote chance of happening.
Not sure what E-scooter/bikes has to do with any kind of assault on immigrants. He brought up concerns with the legislation he feels needs to be addressed.
I don’t know what you mean by “You can take it from here” means, but I’ll pass.
No I am not on welfare, but I wouldn’t be ashamed to be.

 

I am a hard core democrat, and I have no problem with the concept of eminent domain. As much as I disagree with the wall, I have no problem with instituting eminent domain to aquire lands considered crucial to a public service (I just don't see this service as meriting the cost, or it's utility).

Of course, it's rich to see that the last two republican presidents have tried to benefit from eminent domain as private citizens to build #**#~ç*#" parking lots taking over private citizens' property. One for a baseball team, the other for his casino.

 

When push comes to shove, I doubt there will be many delays. Prevailing case law says the government can take the land first and settle up later. I suppose if the open border crowd doesn't like it, they can get a Constitutional Amendment to do away with the eminent domain clause in the 5th.

 

Heavily right leaning? 5-4 with Roberts changing unconstitutional laws to make them slip under the wire?

The fascist progressives vote together 90% of the time. Americans on the court vote together 80% +-.

Poop maps are required to navigate around excrement left in the streets by Democrats' homeless illegals and otherwise. Don't want to visit SF without an updated version.

Here's an article discussing the rabid right court you have nightmares about:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-the-conservative-justices-column/2028450001/

 

Commies also love to seize lands for "the greater good." And here I though RWers hate commies. Funny that.

 

Gibberish stitched together without any back up evidence. Progressives' illegals. What a joke considering your cons party haven't done ch1t for decades about the border except profiting from such illegals. One Donald Trump comes to mind.

 

The SCOTUS has and always will side with the 2nd. Stop hyperventilating.
I’d rely on my own two eyes to avoid human excrement, but maybe that’s just me.

 

Just got to laugh. Border farmers btch and moan about illegals coming across their property BUT when asked to be part of the solution its NO FN WAY Jose...

 

If "Garza" is paying for it, Mexicans are paying for it. Promise kept.

 

Eminent domain has been a thing for hundreds of years. This is the first time democrats are complaining about it. I doubt any of you would complain if it was for wind and solar farms.

 

My sister-in-law works for the state of California, what she does is identify plots of land needed to expand their over crowded highways. When I asked her how that process works, she said they ED them and here's how they do it: They get the land rezoned so whatever is on it can't be upgraded or they insist on expensive upgrades that aren't worth it. The rezoning could make it so the liquor store that's been there for 50 years is no longer allowed to be there. In other words, they make the property worthless or too expensive for the owner, then the state comes in and low balls the price. She said if she could justify it and was willing to fight the legal battles, she could ED property from Disney and build a highway through the middle of their amusement park, the only oversight her department has is the court system. Her job and this project is paid for by the huge gas tax that was recently implemented in CA and there are hundreds of others across the state doing the exact same job she's doing.

Oh, and she absolutely hates Trump but loves her job.

 

Anyone who owns land on a border and does not go into it knowing it could be subject to a federal easement was an idiot.

 

I guess the answer is yes there are some that will resist and some that will complain and some that will fight as much as they can, buy they will lose.

this is the border were talking about not some park.

 

Some of that land has been in the family from before Trump was born.