WATCH LIVE: Two Dead, One Wounded After Shooting Reported at White Settlement Church

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    "If Jesus wants you dead, he will kill you because it is his will. That is biblical. Don't you believe that you have a soul that will exist for eternity?"

    No.

    I expect to cease to exist. Just as "I" didn't exist before I was born, "MY" existence will end at death. While I believe that life is amazing, a miracle if you will, I believe that our conciousness is nothing but a complex set of electrochemical processes. Once those processes stop, "WE" cease to exist.

    I believe that there was an actual person who we commonly call Jesus. I believe that the legends were built around him. Maybe he promoted them. Maybe he didn't.

    I think that religion grew out of man's fear of the dark. The fear of the unknown. I think that the gods offered explanations for what they didn't understand. There was a god for every event. Now, the Catholics have a Saint for everything. It's pretty much the same concept.
     
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  2. notme

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    I thought I made it clear about the easy access to guns compared to Europe.
     
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    That isn't state by state, and what weapons you own is restricted.
     
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    No, it is not a cascade effect. There is no way, even beyond biblical to confiscate all weapons, the task is beyond plausible. To boot, all one needs is to forge the barrel, the rest can be stamped.
     
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    BS, I have been through both !!!!

    Can't wait to get the eff out of NJ. !!!!!
     
  6. rahl

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    State bans on NFA items are unconstitutional. And no, there is no limit on what NFA items I can own.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Limits on types of weapons, one can't own any weapon they please. Size/caliber, et al, I must assume is a little different per state,
     
  8. rahl

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    Great. Then you realize you can’t and won’t be banning any class of arms. Glad we cleared that up.
     
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  10. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    That comment doesn't make sense. If Joe claims that he sold his gun to Jim and not to the shooter John, don't you think the cops will ask Jim if Joe is telling the truth?
     
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  12. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You claimed that gun confiscation was a conspiracy. I gave you 2 examples showing otherwise.
     
  13. SiNNiK

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    There are none.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The church shooter was not an illegal immigrant.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Here is a link with the killer's background = https://heavy.com/news/2019/12/keith-thomas-kinnunen/.

    He was religious, which probably influenced his actions. Maybe he wanted to send as many people as he could to heaven, which is why he decided to kill them at church?
     
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    Totally false and based on conjecture versus any actual facts.
     
  17. SiNNiK

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    Here are some examples of what is available.

    https://www.gunbroker.com/Rifles/search?Keywords=.50&Sort=13&PageSize=24

    Barrett 82A1 50 BMG 20"
    $7,350.00


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    There are bolt action models as well as full auto models. Pick one and get some.
     
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    Culture, not easy access to guns. Many places have easy access to guns but don't have a murder problem. When you don't value human life, it's easier to murder people. In my opinion, the latin culture does not have the same value structure as the more European culture. Same goes for much of Africa where you also see a super high murder rate.
     
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    When people (not humans) have no value for their own life, they lack compassion or respect for anyone else's life, and as such do not belong in a civilized society.
     
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    Good Lord, look at the rap sheet and history of the guy.

    That wasn't a man, it was a mad dog that needed to be put down.
     
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    Europe has far more stricter gun regulation laws. They also have far less gun related deaths.
    These are facts.
    I don't care about your personal opinion, when we got the facts as stated above.
     
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    Where did I say it was half the rate? Do you even realize you are comparing states to cities or did that needed to be pointed out as well?

    And Texas' biggest cities are all controlled by Democrats and only 14 of the 50 biggest cities in the country have Republican mayors further making my case. Might want to do some research next time.
     
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    Reports saying that he grew upset with the church when they only helped him with food and wouldn't give him money. He was often homeless and his sister said it was the 10th anniversary of their brother's suicide. She also believes that he was on his own suicide mission.

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/12/keith-thomas-kinnunen/
     
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    And yet they have what they refer to as a epidemic of stabbing deaths.

    The problem is not the tool, it's the criminal possessing it, once you get over that you should realize gun banning is futile and only makes the problem worse by disarming the law abiding.
     
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