Educated vs "Non-Educated"

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  1. Robert E Allen

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    Ignorant jerk.. goodbye..
     
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    There is, in fact, a correlation between intelligence and university degrees, particularly in technical subjects.
    Sure, but we can't expect people will overcome a tough start in life.
    The "qualified mechanic" these days works for a dealer or specialized service (brakes, exhaust systems, body shop, etc.).
     
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    Liberals have done away with it too ... 12 years of school and the kid does not learn the founding principles .. or the basics of Philosophy -logic logical fallacy, what constitutes a valid argument - critical thinking.

    No functional democracy can exist without such tools - one can not wade through the cacophony of bad argument and fallacy - raining down on a daily basis from Politicians and the MSM - without such tools.
     
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    I'll bet you anything it was the property taxes paid by the timber companies or license fees or something like that. What is your problem? There was no point to your argument anyway. If you want to bring property taxes down vote Democratic so we can get the rich to pay their fair share and have a fair society instead of this scumbag GOP mess. the only rich country without all the benefits we should have of citizenship healthcare daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations look like every other rich country has. You can't handle the truth. We'll see you, sorryyou can't carry on a political discussion.
     
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    Text books are picked in Texas and are hardly liberal. All that is just more GOP propaganda. The GOP seems to like dumber and dumber so they believe everything they hear on the propaganda machine. I'm not questioning GOP voters intelligence oh, they know every detail of many many phony scandals. Oh dear. We have to be able to separate political beliefs from personal insult. It is not part of your personality. Or should not be.
    NY Books › articles › 2012/06/21
    How Texas Inflicts Bad Textbooks on Us | by Gail Collins | The New York Review of Books

    Jun 21, 2012 · When it comes to meddling with school textbooks, Texas is both similar ... in which the State Board of Education is selected in elections that are ...



    KUT › post › how-exactly-does-tex...
    How Exactly Does Texas Approve Public School Textbooks? | KUT

    Nov 21, 2014 · The Texas State Board of Education usually makes headlines when it ... But just how are textbooks chosen in Texas, and who is involved?
     
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    Pretty good advice.
     
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    Sure, I’ve “met people too”.
    That means nothing.
    Degrees, even in sociology are valued more then not for any occupation requiring a non specific degrees.
    That’s the military, law enforcement along with managerial positions in most major corporations...they are give preferences.
     
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    Texas pics our textbooks and the whole liberal high School thing is not exactly true LOL
    upload_2020-1-17_18-55-30.png NY Books › articles › 2012/06/21
    How Texas Inflicts Bad Textbooks on Us | by Gail Collins | The New York Review of Books
    Jun 21, 2012 · When it comes to meddling with school textbooks, Texas is both similar ... in which the State Board of Education is selected in elections that are ...



    upload_2020-1-17_18-55-30.png KUT › post › how-exactly-does-tex...
    How Exactly Does Texas Approve Public School Textbooks? | KUT
    Nov 21, 2014 · The Texas State Board of Education usually makes headlines when it ... But just how are textbooks chosen in Texas, and who is involved?
     
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    You can follow all that advice, and you’ll still on average be making two to three times less then a degreed worker
    .”you'll be fine” is relative. You will on average be living from paycheck to paycheck.
     
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    I understand that. But Buckley's comments weren't against the Harvard faculty because Harvard is his school's rival. He was making a point about how the last place you should look for common sense is from pinheaded liberal elites.

    Many say Buckley was the father of modern conservatism, which brought Barry Goldwater, and Reagan.
     
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    People lose abilities when they're not introduced to areas--foreign languages, music, art--at a young age.
     
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    So you believe Buckley had a flare for the ad hom?

    Or, are you suggesting that people should look for "common sense" advice from pinhead conservative elites?
     
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    What there isn't is a correlation between an education and being prepared for leadership or the real world.

    The Johnson administration proves this in spades. Especially when it came to Vietnam.

    Highly educated people with no real world leadership experience makes for the worlds worst leaders and governments/ economic theory.

    Aka Bernie Sanders,
     
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    And Yale is not a pin head liberal entity ?
     
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    Sure there is a correlation. However, that does not mean it's a good indicator. There are just oo man exceptions.
    I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.
    We have four good independent mechanics right here in my small town of about a thousand

    I had problems with a Mazda CX-9. The battery would run down over a period of about four weeks, if it was not driven. I took it to a Ford dealer since there is a Ford which is almost identical and there is no Mazda dealer within a hundred miles. They said I had a bad battery. They said it had a dead cell that registered zero voltage under load. I went back to get th car and got it jumped started. After the battery was charged it registered good on a battery tester. They tested the battery while it was fully discharged and called it bad.

    I went to a Subaru dealer for some free warranty paint service. They said it was overdue for a oil change. I told them it was changed during a trip. They asked if I got the tires rotated. I said no, but go ahead and do it. When I picked up the car it had a loud thump coming from the right rear. The chief mechanic said the tire was out of round. I could not feel what he was showing me. He claimed that because I had gone a thousand miles too far, it ruined the tires. I asked why I did not feel it on the front. He said all wheel drives were different. I told him to put the wheels back where they were originally. In the mean time I complained to their management. When I got the car back, they claimed they "fixed" the problem and the tires were now rotated. I will never go back to either that Ford dealer or Subaru dealer. Don't be impressed by dealers.
     
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    There seems to be a correlation with wages in general, the military and every law enforcement agency that does require a degree along with every business that does for managerial positions.
    They all pay more for people with degrees. Do a little research.
    Do commercial airline pilots require a degree ? Most airlines require pilots to have a college degree, but candidates can consider many different options when deciding on a major. In addition to earning a degree, airline pilots must complete flight school and earn many licenses and ratings.

    So really, you’re just making up stuff...

    Like a lot of occupations, there are two chances you can work without degrees....slim and none.

    In college, they teach you to do a little research before you speak...
     
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    He was very intelligent. He skewered libs.
     
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    Yes, it is.
     
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    You went there and earned a degree ?
     
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    You’re right. Every gop has legislator who voted for a Republican budget Lead us into 9- 10 recessions. I believe everyone had a college degree or attended college.

    Of course all the liberal budgets had but one recession and most if not all had degrees too. So, education had less to do with it then party affiliation.
     
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    Low educated people with no leadership skills....are worse. At least, they make a fking lot less. The people paying them feel that way.
     
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    Johnson faced a Republican party that was WILDLY in favor of the Vietnam war. Having a Republican accuse him of continuing the war makes no sense.

    He did make progress here at home, though.

    His work on his civil rights bill overcame Republican opposition which was absolutely opposed. He did that through usning his knowledge of how congress works (removing the effectiveness of tools used to block bills), his lobbying Everet Dirkson, and by making the point that a nation that claimed to be Christian could not stand for police brutality, unequal access to jobs to feed families, etc. (Who does that today?) Plus, he pointed out that we could not continue with Jim Crow being the Christian answer to godless communism!

    He also made significant strides through his "Great Society" movement.
     
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    I graduated from what is known as a “public ivy” school. Not from Yale.
     
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    Oh, an ivy league wannabe ?
     
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    That's not leadership.

    And, both parties get skewered on many topics.

    I think he was loved as a trophy. Republicans could point at him and say they don't despise ALL people with education - mostly just our colleges and universities.
     
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