Educated vs "Non-Educated"

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  1. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sort of, like: UC Berkeley, Univ of Virginia, Univ of Michigan, etc.
     
  2. dagosa

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    So, you’re proud of a degree but not what it represents ?
    Hard to figure.
     
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    I get it - preaching to the choir - the overall situation around the nation is bad - especially with respect to teaching a kid the founding principles - the safeguards that protect individual liberty.

    They teach "what to think" - not "how to think". Then on the outside they are inundated with Propaganda - State Sponsored and otherwise.

    Its a dangerous combination that we are witnessing - and both Red and Blue Establishment continue to facilitate this process from both sides.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe it’s possible to get a good education almost anywhere. But you have to spot the Marxism and ignore it.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes - for language it is called "critical period theory" - if you are kept in a room away from communication for the first 3-4 years of life - and then taken out- that person is never able to learn complex language skills. The brain is physically changing during the first years .. and if the connections are not made then - they can not be re-established later.
     
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    Education is no way to determine if someone deserves to vote or not. My dad dropped out of high school, but ran his own construction company for 50 years and employed dozens of people in the process. He started with nothing and never took a penny of government assistance. He put his wife through college after both of his sons graduated. He has never been arrested in his life and selflessly helped others dozens of time, sometimes at great expense to himself. He deserves to vote.

    I don't like the idea of creating intelligence tests to vote. Those can be manipulated to weed out whomever politicians decide they don't like.

    I do have a test that I think would improve the quality of the electorate. All voters must be responsible for their own welfare for at least 1 year. You cannot vote if somebody else claims you as a dependent. This means that you must provide for yourself and not take any government assistance. Being married to a qualified voter means that you also are considered qualified because legally the 2 are 1 entity. Accepting government assistance disqualifies you from voting until you have again satisfied the requirement of 1 year of self sufficiency. Social Security is not government assistance. It is repayment of your contributions to the system.

    I know that the rich can set up their kids to meet the standard, but at least they aren't a drain on the taxpayers. The idea is that only those who support the government financially have a say in how the money is spent. We are quickly getting to where the people can vote themselves support from the government and it will be impossible to sustain that government without going into total socialism/communism.
     
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    Most people respond to authority or just non “liberals”?
     
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    I think tainting any whole university that way is a bad ides.. you'd have to break it down to by department and in some cases professors.

    If a school requires the use of the improper pronouns for specific individuals it's certainly been influenced by stupidity.
     
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    I disagree though it's highly individualistic.

    Trump is a better leader than Obama. Obama was a better diplomat .. right now America needs leaders not diplomats.
     
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    Interesting definition of productivity. I’ve have never seen any empirical evidence that less pay increases productivity. Could you supply some?
     
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    If you would care to follow my posts in this thread you will find I have never denied the value of having a college degree. In fact, just the opposite, I agreed that having a degree was more important than having knowledge or intelligence, particularly, when applying for a public sector positition.

    Perhaps you and Oliver could go back to school and do some brushing up on your skills.
     
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    An airline pilot needs more than a degree, they also have real world experience!!!

    That's why i am for a period of 4 years of national service after highschool.

    Educated people with real world experience make for great assets to our country.

    Educated people who cannot think their way out of a wet paper bag are common and useless. As are people who are so convinced they are right they won't listen to others even if they know more.. Robert Macnamara is the perfect example there.
     
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    Haha
    I see you don’t equate educated people with a degree. Why ? You need a degree first before you can svail yourself to any relevant experience. I see righties twist themselves into knots trying to minimize the need for a degree. Best of luck. It’s a losers proposition.
     
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    wrong on both counts

    1. one can be very highly educated without getting a degree or even going to a school
    2. real world experience before education is best.
     
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    That’s a poor assumption. What your Reference fails to reveal is, a degree opens the door for any prospective employer to further look into a body of work, three to five years long that easily reveals knowledge and intelligence.

    Unless you’re suggesting we just ask mom. Laughable.
     
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    Well, you managed to make a couple of ill prepared statements without any “ how do you do that ?”
    How can you tell experience and intel ? Give an IQ test or ask mom ?
     
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    Skills like, making up stuff to impress our equally delusional friends ? No thanks. That’s Trumpian.
     
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    Sure, you can get zero experience flying commercial without a degree.
     
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    This I gotta hear......
     
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    Do you realize you agreed with my my statement immediately after calling it "a poor assumption"?
     
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    Maybe you were a math major ? ;) You said knowledge et al was less important then a degree. I replied, that a degree reveals knowledge et al in every area a degree is required....not public sector alone.
    Ie, any employer.
     
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    Sorry if I was abrasive....
     
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    Except for the blue side lol. Seriously
     
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    Yes you can be highly educated without going to school take Abraham Lincoln. But it also is very rare be that motivated. On the other hand my father the doctor was in a 6-year college program to become a doctor and yeah. He said he was known as the best read doctor in Western New York.believe me though there are many politically and socially naive doctors engineers accountants etc etc....
     
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    You said, "...
    a degree opens the door for any prospective employer to further look into a body of work, three to five years long that easily reveals knowledge and intelligence."

    If that door is not opened there will be no further investigation.
     

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