Elizabeth Warren: "How could the American people want someone who lies to them?”

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  1. RodB

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    Too bad you don't understand the difference between lying and missing projected goals.
     
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    That's your comparison?

    Democrats have stopped Trump on all but the debt elimination, unless I'm missing that somewhere... Warren's lies are her own that she said to benefit her.

    You can do better. I hope, because what you used as comparison is weak.
     
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    Besides democrats, nobody gives half a popcorn fart if Mexico pays for the wall or not. We could end welfare for a couple of months and pay for that wall. Trump also removed the penalty for not having healthcare, so we're not forced into having it. That's good enough for now.
     
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    Pick the liar who knows it's the economy stupid, and who aids your's and everybody else's working class pocketbook.

    A working class HERO is actually something to be, Lennon and Ono and Specter be damned to hell.
     
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    The states would be better off keeping their money than sending it to Washington and allowing the federal bureaucrats take their cut before sending what’s left back to the states.
     
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    Is your insurance $2,500.00 cheaper? Can you keep your same doctor and plan? Where are those one million shovel ready jobs he said he had if elected? Did he have the most transparent administration of any other? Did he renegotiate NAFTA as he said he would? Did he stop no bid contracts as he said he would? Did he post all bills on the Internet before signing them as he said he would? Did he balance the budget in his first term as he said he would? Did he deport more illegals than any other administration as he said he did? Steel industry myth Obama bought into busted by PolitiFact - NWI Times,etc. Etc Did the steel companies put out as much steel under his administration as they ever did? Did he fix the V.A. as he said he would? Did he clear lobbyist out of his administration as he said he would? Did he close Gitmo as he said he would? Did he end the Iraqi war as he said he did? Was ISIS Jr. Varsity as he said they were?
     
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    One of the Trump administration’s most concrete efforts to lower drug prices is an approach that’s been around for decades: approving more generic drugs. And it’s moving fast.

    By the numbers: FDA approved 781 generic drugs in fiscal 2018. That’s 90% more than in 2014, when Congress provided new authorities designed to speed the approval process, according to a PwC report. https://www.axios.com/Drug-prices-g...FDA-7a584df7-67a3-44b4-9181-85c08d071bc5.HTML

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    May 09, 2019 · Drug companies will soon be required to include their prices in television ads, in an effort to drive down costs and boost transparency. TV Ads for Drugs Must Now Include Prices. It's the Latest .



    No surprise medical bills.
    Trumpp signs law requiring hospitals to be up front on their charges so people are not surprised at the bill when they get it.

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    President Trump on Wednesday signed legislation into law that gives patients the “right to try” experimental drugs, to give them a chance to live, or at least extend their life, cementing a major policy priority for the White House. ... Trump signs bill ..
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    Here Trump started free or affordable child care for single low income mothers. This was because of the urging of Trump's Daughter Ivanka. https://freefinancialhelp.net/free-childcare-assistance/

    Trump signs Autism bill

    Trump signs autism legislation into law providing $1.8B in research funding. There is no medical test available to diagnose autism. Autism is diagnosed by observing the development of a child, according to the CDC. Characteristics of autism were studied as symptoms of schizophrenia in the early 1900's. Rep. Smith says the bill will fund research, early detection and treatment for autism spectrum disorder. Oct 2 2019

    Reference: ://www.wtsp.com/.../trump-signs.../507-70e3e773-3fe4-4d7…



    Trump's new rule will give businesses and workers better health care options


    When President Trump took office, small businesses and hard-working, middle-class families were finding it increasingly difficult to afford health insurance. The Trump administration has already taken significant steps to help, and Thursday we took another one. A new Trump administration rule will provide an estimated 800,000 businesses a better way to offer coverage and millions of workers a better way to obtain coverage, through the expansion of Health Reimbursement Arrangements (HRAs).

    HRAs are employer-funded arrangements that workers use to pay for medical expenses. The Obama administration forbade workers in the individual insurance market to use HRAs to pay for coverage — significantly impeding employer flexibility and worker choice. Trump's new rule undoes this misguided restriction.
    Starting on January 1, 2020, employers will be able to offer their workers HRAs to buy individual market coverage for themselves and their families. The administration's new rule addresses a major inequity by, in effect, providing the same tax advantage that traditional employer-sponsored group plans receive — exclusion of premiums from federal income or payroll taxes — to coverage that workers in the individual market purchase from an HRA.
    The rule will significantly expand worker options since 80% of firms that provide insurance currently offer only one type of plan. Now, workers will be able to use tax-advantaged money from their employers to buy coverage of their choosing. This new flexibility will allow people to maintain their coverage when they switch jobs.

    More Markets & Economy Perspectives
    In particular, this new rule should help small business workers by making it possible for employers to fund coverage with less hassle and cost than maintaining a traditional group health plan. Between 2010 and 2018, the proportion of workers at firms with three to 49 workers covered by an employer plan fell by more than 25%. This rule should help reverse that decline. The rule also makes it easier for small businesses to compete with larger businesses for talent. (Read more )



    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/13/pers...x9fj0WeTr3ZQ9AbDCz5ay1eWdRXVHOYr98P2yCnshbpr0
     
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    “A pro-worker, pro-citizen, pro-family agenda demonstrates how a nation can thrive when its communities, its companies, its government work together for the good of the whole nation,” Trump said at Davos.

    There's the winner. There can be no logical argument against those words. MAGA!
     
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    Didn't Congress pass a tax cut? When tax revenue is decreased then borrowing increases, which is a deficit.
     
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    Question= Who got impeached?

    Answer = lying trump

    Question = So who was the better President?

    Answer = Obama
     
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    LMAO!!!

    And Lieawatha's tribe goes into Full Deflection Mode...:lol:
     
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    Warren is right... I don't want someone who will lie to me, that's why I won't vote for any of the democrats. Obama lied enough.
     
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    Trump was Impeached by a House of Representatives that has a Democratic majority that has been Hellbent on Impeachment from the Day President Trump was elected. Democrats have Weaponized the Impeachment process, so that whatever Political Party that controls the House can now vote in Partisan to Impeach a President they simply don't like. Liberals will have nobody but themselves to blame when Trump is Re-elected in November, because this bogus Impeachment was Dead the moment it hit the Floors of the Senate. Thank you Libby's
     
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    Policy is debatable, encouraged even.

    Lying about one's c/v. That's a personality flaw.
     
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    But my liar is better than yours?

    Read my lips!
    If you like your doctor!
    I did not have sexual relations!
    Im not a crook!
     
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    Trump made a huge Trade Deal with both China and Mexico.
    The Border wall is being built.
    Sanctuary Cities are on notice.They are being watched by ICE.
    They will possibly have to forgo certain Federal funds for being
    Sanctuary cities.Rogue Liberal Judges are holding up the works on this.
    Trump and the GOP tried to Repeal ACA but John McCain decided to
    vote against.His vote was necessary.
     
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    Too close to call.
     
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    The GOP did it to Clinton now cry us a river..
     
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    Determinism allowed no other possibility other than Trump was born and hard-wired to be impeached. Determinism will allow no other possibility other than Trump was born and hard-wired to be acquitted.

    There's the scientific proof on Trump truth. :nod:
     
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    But he's stealing from the military at this point.

    D's helped with some changes to the USMCA which is why they signed off in the house. The R senate hasn't done anything on it yet.

    Here's a recent tRUMP quote on the deficit.
    Who the hell cares about the budget?': Trump tears into critics of mounting federal spending and debt under his watch
    President Trump ripped into critics of rising federal spending under his watch, according to leaked audio files of a lavish fundraiser held at Mar-a-Lago on Friday.

    "Who the hell cares about the budget? We're going to have a country," Trump said, according to The Washington Post, which published the remarks over the weekend.

    ...
    Trump campaigned in 2016 on eliminating the federal debt in eight years and reining in the deficit, a key concern of Republicans throughout President Obama's two terms in office. They often accused Democrats of being excessive spenders, which racked up the deficit.
    ...
    https://news.yahoo.com/hell-cares-budget-trump-tears-184416961.html
    How about all employers who has/have hired them?
    You know, some of tRUMPs companies have hired them. And fired them when caught.
    His companies received no fine. Nor did the illegals get deported. Only fired.
     
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    And tRUMP lovers? Would support him if he shot someone on 5th Ave.
    And Mexico will pay for wall.

    Trump campaigned in 2016 on eliminating the federal debt in eight years and reining in the deficit, a key concern of Republicans throughout President Obama's two terms in office. They often accused Democrats of being excessive spenders, which racked up the deficit.
    Yet it goes up and up and up.
     
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    You call it stealing we call it redirecting. It’s been made public knowledge. It was a campaign promise and its working.
     
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    Mexico is paying for the wall, indirectly, as Trump promised.

    In fact, Mexico has done more for America under Trump in stemming illegals than the Democrats have done. Trump got them to move an army to the Southern border to stop illegals. Democrats were enraged as they needed those votes to win the election.
     
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    Elizabeth Warren: "How could the American people want someone who lies to them?”

    Simple. American voters have been raised to treat politics like pro sports teams fighting for a championship win. Voters have been trained by the political parties to buy into the platform whole-hog, to slurp up the rhetoric and the spin doctoring like it is sweet cream rather than the sewage it truly is.

    In the comparison of any politician to Trump, it comes down o degree and severity. No politician, certainly no President or presidential wannabe, comes close to Trump in the massive onslaught of lies, distortions and impeachable offenses.

    I do not want Warren to be President, or any of the other Dems currently in contention this Presidential Silly Season. But I am left watching this farce of a Senate Trial, devised to assure an acquittal no matter what is presented and in fact devised to prevent evidence from being revealed.

    So here I am, an independent, alarmed by the liberal push for gun control (Anti-American!) and single payer health care (not workable for 330 million people) that none have thought half way thru, and the only moral vote I can see is to run a straight Dem ticket in November. Which I will follow by donating to lobbying groups fighting against the Democrats. Then in the 2022 mid-terms I'll vote a straight Republican ticket.

    That's what it gets down to these days. The parties are so seriously diseased that there is no safe ground to stand upon. The only moral position to take is to bounce back and forth between them, trying for a balance over a period of years as different sets of idiots and amoral *******s are swapped in and out of elected office.
     
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