Educated vs "Non-Educated"

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Socialism does require ownership. It’s ownership OR regulation.
    Hospitals in the US are predominantly, corporations. 20% are government owned and the remaining, 65% non profit and 15% for profit, are all highly regulated and all are incorporated. . Since Obamacare, you can go from one hospital to another whether it’s owned by the giver of not, they all are regulated similarly, eccept if you’re service personnel.
    Nope, , the cause is desire for additional profit margins. No for profit corporation is designed to be unprofitable, only non profits have that role. It’s wrong to think otherwise.
     
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    Not in countries with socialised medicine (like mine). We have more public hospital beds.

    Why do you want doctors to be paid less? What's your problem with their earnings? You begrudge the measly $200k they earn for saving lives? They deserve twice that just for sticking out the seven years of training.
     
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    You can't be serious, now.

    How many companies do you know of which keep manufacturing something no one is buying? You can step it back to the root cause, I know you can.
     
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    Through sales and income taxes, just like China does for their schools as a self declared socialist country.
     
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    China was (some say still is) totalitarian. Very different animal.
     
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    Every for profit corporation I have ever worked for was primarily motivated to make profit.
     
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    Argue with China then. Tell them you know more about their country then they do. They’d be glad to listen. Gee, maybe they’ll change their self description.
     
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    Every single manufacturing company in the world makes their manufacturing decisions based in profit. 80% of the manufacturing jobs lost , were due to robotics. In your world, they would not have gone to robotics but kept more expensive labor. That didn’t happen...so I guess...you were wrong.

    Interestingly, though, only 13 percent of those jobs were lost due to international trade. The vast remainder, 85 percent of job losses, stemmed from “productivity growth” — another way of saying machines replacing human workers.

    https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/09/i...ce-manufacturing-jobs-and-thats-a-good-thing/
     
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    10 countries where doctors are paid most , the us is third. They all have socialized medicine except for the US. It’s about standard of living.
    https://www.careeraddict.com/top-5-countries-with-the-highest-paid-salaries-for-doctors
     
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    I can't deny that American business sold a lot of our companies to China, that's the truth, but that doesn't change the fact Jimmy Carter's deregulation and taking away the ability of Federal workers to strike over hours and wages didn't have devastating effects on the union and held down wages and benefits.
     
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    So, government regulation and support for unions is a good thing ?
     
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    Do you think this mindset is determined genetically, learned by experience, or instilled by parents and formal education?

    Also, how do “religious” progressives like Mayor Pete, Elizabeth Warren, Corey Booker, and Nancy Pelosi fit into the equation?
     
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    Did you genuinely not understand my post? Because your answer bears no relationship to it .. as usual.

    I asked you to give examples of businesses which keep producing something that no one is buying. You can't of course, because no business would ever do that.

    Please tell us who's really to blame for big business exploiting a demand.
     
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    Environment, entirely. Parents, culture, community.

    Those examples are not religious. They're total fakes, obviously. I'm an non-believer, but even I know that faith demands limitations. Else what in hell is the point of it. It's not a machine dispensing free candy.
     
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    What in hell is this supposed to mean? You never actually respond to the content of posts.
     
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    Thanks for sticking with me and answering all my questions. I do have one more. How do you explain two kids raised the same in the same home taking totally different approaches to responsibility, conservatism, etc?

    Concur on my progressive examples. It amuses me that their duplicity ploy seems to work on so many.
     
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    Do you need someone to read the reference for you ?
     
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    Well, that’s not true in Canada where’re most hospitals are non profit corporations. Neither is it true in other countries with universal healthcare. Most hospitals are incorporated non profits. That’s not government owned.
     
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    You sure aren’t very clear. Maybe it’s you who are struggling.
    Look at this statement. It’s poorly expressed when I’ve said over and over, for profit corporations are motivated first, by profit.
    Of course companies will decide where, how much and what types of products or even if they will buy and not make product..... they will make these decisions based upon profit margin.

    . If that means moving manufacturing overseas or using mechanization including robotics over manpower, they do that.

    For example a big portion of corporations no longer make much of their own product. Making products like batteries and tires and even tractors is so efficient, fewer makers build the products which allows companies to just purchase in bulk and rebadge. Many, are just distributors now....look at the biggest corps in a America, like amazon...they make literally, nothing.

    Often, huge companies like John Deere only make some product and buy and rebrand others. They aren’t even involved in deciding manufacturing priorities for many of their parts.
    Keep up and ask more thought out questions. Many companies don’t even have to broach manufacturing decisions.
     
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    They're government-run corporations. Ditto their government-run schools. The "corporation" designation allows them to do business independent of government, but they're still under government control.
     
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    We'll have to raise taxes on someone to pay for these programs in the future.
     
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    She flamed out on Calculus because she wasn't smart enough.
    I thought we were talking about people with problems.
    Better than all nonreligious parents is a rather meaningless.
     
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    Why do you keep pointing to individual situations when you're talking about a trend?
     

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