Educated vs "Non-Educated"

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    They're under government control.
     
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    She couldn't do what people call "word problems."
    Sure. We all know people who became alcoholics.
    No, I'm not.
    No.
     
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    What about "edibles?"
     
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    1) No two children are ever parented exactly the same - not even twins. No two children experience exactly the same environment - not even twins.

    2) I doubt it's intentional duplicity. It's just self-centred and vain. Imagining you've secured immortality by professing things and indulging the feels every now and then. No need to work on yourself, or exercise any of the self-restraint asked by the gods. Pish tosh, I say. If religion doesn't actually improve you, and thus make you a better helper of the world - IOW, make you more honest, more kind, more selfless, cleaner, more sober, more 'conservative' in your habits and lifestyle in order to do the most for others, then it's both fake and pointless.
     
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    Dear, I live in a country with universal healthcare, and our hospitals are most definitely PUBLIC. Govt owned, run, funded, and managed. It's been this way for decades. The UK is the same. You don't seem to understand public health. Are you American, by any chance?
     
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    Your response - AGAIN - bears no relationship to my question.

    Can you point to a single business, which kept producing something that no one way buying?

    Here's another: What drives a business? What comes BEFORE the profit? What is necessary for them to actually make that profit? The answer is the same for all three. Go ahead, I'll wait.
     
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    Not if it's deriving a profit from the enterprise, obviously. Profit is capitalism, remember.

    It doesn't matter a good g-d damn who owns the outfit, if it's a business making money, it's capitalism.
     
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    Thank you! It's infuriating, and confusing. Responses usually look like they belong to someone else's post.
     
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    We don't have a significant shortage. We occassionally wander into surplus, in fact. It's a very small surplus, and easily dealt with via dispersal (of the talent) out of cities, but still. Either way, I don't believe we should ever lower the admission standard. We want the very best of the best to be taking our lives in their hands, don't we? And why should their remuneration even enter into it? We shouldn't care if they're paid a million a year, given what they actually do for us.
     
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    It’s done all the time in the auto industry. GM makes the corvette which is a losing seller. But, it’s great for advertising and indirectly is a brand icon. Every auto company produces prototypes that NEVER SELL, but they’re used to gauge public interest. It’s really a poor question because making things as test beds that will never sell us done a lot by lots of companies.
    Btw, I don’t know what “ that no one way buying means,” I assume it meant, no one is buying.”
    And the answer is ....yes, quite a bit.
     
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    Give a reference.....go for it
    http://www.cwhn.ca/en/node/39754
    95% of Canadian hospitals are corporate non profit....

    Read it
     
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    read this...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/
     
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    affirmative action from having America as a neighbor
     
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    There is no mass exodus from Canada to the US to get private healthcare. Asamof, Rand Paul the supper libertarian, went to Canada to get healthcare..laughable.
     
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    The world according to whom , wrong but still peddling made up stories.
     
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    I agree with you about environment never being the same. At the same time I’m compelled to believe there is some genetic component to our propensity for choosing our belief system. It’s primarily based on my observation of biological children raised apart from their parent ending up with “conservative” views and actions mirroring that parent even when raised in an opposite environment. This is a whole different subject though and nobody has it figured out. We are just starting to understand the nature/nurture relationship at the biological level with epigenetics and behavioral epigenetics.

    2) I doubt it's intentional duplicity. It's just self-centred and vain. Imagining you've secured immortality by professing things and indulging the feels every now and then. No need to work on yourself, or exercise any of the self-restraint asked by the gods. Pish tosh, I say. If religion doesn't actually improve you, and thus make you a better helper of the world - IOW, make you more honest, more kind, more selfless, cleaner, more sober, more 'conservative' in your habits and lifestyle in order to do the most for others, then it's both fake and pointless.[/QUOTE]
    Interesting. Barring a little different perspective theologically I think your pretty accurate.
     
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    Interesting. If she understood the concepts and was able to do the math, that really stinks. My wife and I took a genetics class together. The professor was big on trick questions. Even though my wife understood the material as well as I, she did worse on tests because of the test format. This goes back to my point on how formal education can be too rigid at times. It serves a percentage of students well, but many with the same intelligence but different learning styles struggle.

    Ok. Your commentary on your linked pot research gave the impression substance use was only correlated with academic underachievement and couldn’t be a cause of academic underachievement.

    So impairments from substance use/abuse can be the cause of academic failure?
     
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    Dear, you need to do research about UK.
     
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    When the means of production are collectivized... socialism.
     
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    Who are you kidding?
     
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    Straight from the reality free zone.
     
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    You make a lot of false claims about other countries, it makes us wonder about “your country” which you keep secrete. Why don’t you leave and come to the USA if healthcare is so bad ?
    There are no countries in the world that are more expensive per capita then ours. They tend to live longer and are no where as fat. Maybe because fewer health related businesses like the fast food industry is more regulated because of health concerns....
     
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    Actually, "educated", "intelligent", and "skilled" are all things that can be measured.
     
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    Oh? How do you measure the education of, for example, a farmer? Which metrics objectively determine intelligence? Who is more skilled- the best welder or the best carpenter?
     

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