Educated vs "Non-Educated"

Egads. A business owned and operated by government isn't socialist? Hoooh-Kayyyy.

 

Who says it isn't earned?

 

Canada has managed for more than 150 years.

 

What do immigrants have to do with my comment?

What of immigrant kids whose parents screw up?

What if they are?

Screwed up immigrants who don't? What about their kids?

Some don't succeed. What about their kids?

 

Oh, you think paying thousands a year for health insurance along with higher deductibles is preferable ? In everyother country, individuals pay much less in taxes then we pay in premiums. Why do conservatives have the hots for insurance companies ? They must like all the huge buildings they make and the golf tournaments they sponsor.......you guys must be rolling in money you want to piss away....

 

So, this person who can’t do calculus isn't smart enough ?
That’s your prerequisite for being smart enough ?
That makes life simple.

All you people who can’t do calc, you’re fked for life.
Geezus, you maybe onto to something. Not.

 

Under “ gov. control” is a euphemism for “ regulated”. Just like in America, the majority of hospitals are highly REGULATED. The workers don’t get paid by checks from the government. It’s the insurance product that’s government owned who , regulates non profit corporate hospitals.

I don’t see them as gov. Owned. Most hospitals in both countries have non profit status.....it’s volunteerism imo. It’s cheaper then “ for profits.”

I Don’t equate public schools with corporate owned non profit hospitals. The public schools in the US actually pay workers and fund most of the operation with tax dollars directly . Hospital workers that I know are payed by corporations. They aren’t Govt. employees like public school teachers are...

 

You’re equating higher doctor pay with private insurance. That’s a false choice. Private insurance limits doctor pay too. For some reason, you think because insurance companies keep more money for profit for themselves , they can pay out more....they can’t. That’s why they used to drop really sick people from their coverage.

 

Sure,you can be a successful actor by being a porn star without a degree.
You can also be president without a degree....just be born before 1900 when less then 29% of the population had even a HS degree.

 

Find one who even needs to. We have things called cell Phones and AAA now.

 

Your religion makes better students argument only applies to K-12 students, not college students.

By the way, I smoked marihuana while in college, and I still got all A’s. Smoked it for the fun of it.

 

I’ll take your word for it. But taking a class five times without trying a different approach sounds very odd. She could have failed because her skills in algebra were not developed. One of the smartest people I know didn’t do well in school until his dyslexia was addressed.

My claim is alcohol and substance abuse can be initiated by plain old free will and still cause loss of academic performance. You are claiming decreased academic performance is only ever correlated with abuse. Are you saying only screwed up people drink and get high?

Can you clarify. That sentence seems to be lacking something.

 

Do you have some data to back that up?

I appreciate the info on weed in college. I never knew anyone who smoked for any reason but fun in college.

 

When you say “ government run”, it implies that government paid personnel are on site managing the operation. That’s not what corporate owned and regulated hospitals in the US are about. They are managed by employees of the corporation. They are regulated, which is a far cry from on site management. Public schools ARE managed by local government employees, the admin and teachers.

I can’t tell what your point is.
The socialism comes from the socialized INSURANCE that pays for patient care. The hospital is regulated but not managed by the govt.

Most government regulation is mainly enforced by either getting paid or not by the government program. No one is there to mange or run anything. It’s still socialism..

 

There are students attending college with epilepsy for example who could not leave their house if it wasn’t for medical marijuana scripts. They can either smoke it or consume it as edibles. It works for many. There are a plethora of medical reasons to consume MM. one is for pain relief to reduce the consumption of habit forming opioids.

 

It's about collective production.

 

Good point. I never heard of anyone using cannabis medically when I was in college but I guess it’s possible. It’s well past time to legalize research on and unrestricted use of cannabis. It’s crazy to pretend we are for freedom and tell people they can’t eat or smoke a freaking plant.

 

There is that word again. Collectivity is the foundation for socialism.

 

Agree....I’m not there yet with legalizing for non medical use though. I would not make It a criminal offense.....but civil. Then, you could use it at home, but not in public....
It’s way too easy to get a high just being in the same room with use. I’d have to see more long term research on second hand smoke from it etc.

 

It does. In recent years, school districts have been able to choose their superintendent, but the districts have strict guidelines. A couple of years ago, the province of British Columbia took over the Vancouver school district with the stroke of a pen, akin to the state of California taking over the LA school district.

I was born and raised in California, and have always lived part of the year in the U.S. There is no reason for you to explain how things work as though I'm an outsider.

Same in Canada.

Socialism is collective ownership of the means of production.

But that doesn't socialize the means of production, just the insurance.

No, it isn't.

 

Collective ownership of the means of production.

 

Doctors make more because we've created an artificial shortage. Remove the shortage by training more doctors and let the market deal with the wages.

You're making up stuff...

We have a market economy setting wages, not a Middle Ages "just wage."

 

It seems to me that the "educated" doth protest too much for their own good.

 

Good grief. You're all over the place and make up positions for people they don't have.

I'm not a big fan of government-run production because private business properly regulated are more likely to innovate. That said, there are good reasons not to have privatized police.

 

I could live with restrictions to avoid second hand exposure. We already have the framework with tobacco.