So how is Bernie going to get them to do that

The chance of a Russian invasion is almost non-existent and would only likely happen in a WWIII scenario. Germany could also invest in nukes as a deterrent and call it good there. Even if the US cut back on military spending, the alliance as it is would be strong enough to deter Russia. Right now Germany spends like 1.3% of its economy on the military. If the US cut back on the military, they might spend between 1.5% and 2% on the military. So their government will need to raise taxes on the economy by a fraction of a percent of GDP.

 

Medicare for all isn’t free healthcare and Bernie has never said it was. It quite possibly may be overall cheaper than the current mess where the US spends a much higher percentage of GDP for healthcare while arguable achieving inferior results.

 

We spend about 25 billion on all bases everywhere. Germany would have to pay a few billion more, but that is pennies compared to the cost of healthcare which runs in the hundreds of billions for them.

 

Doctors make hundreds of thousands of dollars every year. They aren't getting their lives ruined with a pay cut. And nobody is saying to cut back on medical equipment and drug research. An alternative is invest more in preventative care and invest in a healthier population to reduce the need for billions of dollars of medical equipment and drugs that cost $100 per pill.

 

Don’t forget that Americans already pay for healthcare for the uninsured. They also have deductibles, reduced pay to fund the companies health insurance plans, and in many cases Hugh premiums if they have to buy private insurance

 

We have troops in Germany because it is in OUR interest to do so

 

Good thing you didn't put affordable and government in the same sentence.

 

Other developed nations pay less than half on healthcare than we do. Our healthcare system is so bad, it makes even government-run systems look efficient by comparison.

 

You mean like Obamacare and the physically largest admin department in the federal government - Veterans Affairs? Apparently other developed nations have better governments than we have. Suggesting our federal government will halve medical treatment costs causes me to chuckle. I would suggest it will probably increase the costs to double or triple. Perhaps you aren't old enough to have followed federal government spending for a while.

 

And because Germany want's us to it is considered a mutual interest. It does not change the fact that it is 40k troops that Germany does not need to raise for it's own defense.

 

That's what happens when the government micromanages the whole system and does so from multiple levels of government often working at cross purposes.

 

Actually smaller governments with fewer levels arguing jurisdiction.

 

Well smaller governments are better governments. No doubt about that.

 

It won't just impact doctors. You start establishing by fiat what costs are as medicare does now often without any regard to costs at all. That money has to come from somewhere and it won't be the bureaucrats that are wrecking the system that bear the brunt of the costs.

 

Why is it in our interests? If we are worried about Russia attacking western Europe, putting the troops in Poland would be more effective. I think Europe should protect itself from Russian aggression. I resent seeing my taxes doing it.

 

Universal Healthcare (UHC) is neither free - nor unobtainable. The OP is mindless gibberish.

We spent 3.5 Trillion on healthcare in 2017 - nearly as much as the entire federal revenue for that year (3.64 Trillion).

Are you not aware that every other first world nation has UHC ? What's more is that these nations provide this for roughly half the cost of our system of healthcare extortion.

Were we to simply adopt one of the better of these systems strait across the board - there is 1.75 Trillion in savings to be had - more if you include economies of scale into the equation.

Bernie is just proposing what many of the smart Conservatives are already saying.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-conservative-case-for-universal-healthcare/

I don't care who is Barber is - What I do care about is the possibility of having my healthcare bill cut in half.

 

The problem here is that we have four different independent levels of government and dozens of quasi governmental bodies all with regulatory authority and the feds don't have automatic authority over everyone else. Find some way to stream line that and you probably go along way to reducing medical costs.

 

No!!! We should want government completely out of the medical business. You want federal government to have automatic authority over everyone else. I want federal government to serve and report to the states. If the center of power is in the states like the founders wanted, those state governments would have to compete with other state governments in order to retain residents. Federal government has no competition hence its size, cost, incompetence and corruption. Federal should provide services to the states like defense, homeland security, international relations, currency and a place for states to resolve interstate disputes. We have it all backward.

 

You cannot compare the US with regards to much of anything with anyone else in the world. It's not even as close as apples and oranges. They're at least both fruit. No one, I repeat no one else does government the way we do.

 

You misunderstand Streamlining it would be getting rid of all of that mashup we currently have. Start with getting rid of all the quasi governmental authorities. That impact everything everyone does every day that almost no one even knows exist until they run into one.

 

Russia is losing a war with Ukraine and mostly pulled out of Syria which is why the Turks saw an opportunity to invade. Russia is a paper tiger against any modern military if they stay conventional.

 

Of course it does.and they ration it like mad bastards. They have to to keep the costs down. Here we don't have a market based health care system or government rationed health care system we have one that gives us the worst of both.

 

Nope Germany cannot invest in Nukes the German green party is insane in that regard.

 

We have way too much government. That is clear. But as I said above, the center of power is in the wrong place. We should return to a union of states.

 

Oh I'd agree In fact I am more inclined to leave most of it with the cities.