Who is the best candidate for Democrats?

I agree. That is one of my main problems with Bernie also. The other day he gave a pretty conciliatory speech after the New Hampshire primary. But I share your concern that he might not keep that attitude as he should.

I completely agree that Buttigieg is the best alternative. But I don't think anybody will allow Trump to be re-elected just because Sanders is the candidate. Maybe a few never-Trumpers, but I think that would be easily compensated by young voters. Buttigieg would be best because he could attract young voters and appease the never Trumpers at the same time. But I think it's those young voters that are the real asset.

 

You have your opinion....and I have mine. Coincidentally, it looks as if the DNC happens to hold the same opinion as I. They dont seem to buy into yours even remotely.

 

Correction: I have an opinion that I have substantiated by showing my rationale. You have a right-wing talking point to repeat.

 

Trump.

 

I substantiated my rationale as well, and if stating the obvious is a talking point then so be it, although I am not so sure it actually is a talking point. I do not require the thoughts of others to express what is an obvious interpretation. He calls himself a Socialist, and it is my sincere belief that the term is toxic to an American electorate. MY opinion aligns with the thoughts of the DNC. Yours does not. Perhaps your opinion is correct. Perhaps it is not. One thing however is for certain... my opinion is in line with mainstream thought. Yours is not.

There really is nothing here to argue, and no reason to be terse. We have both expressed valid opinions, and there is no ability at this point to prove either opinion as correct or incorrect. Only time (assuming Bernie is the nominee) will provide that answer. I am not sure why you see the need to constantly imply that people that disagree with you are stupid, incapable of independent thought etc. They are just differing opinions. I can assure you that in no manner, shape, or form am I stupid or incapable of an independent thought. Deep down, you know that as well, but it is as if you do not know of any other tactic than to just bicker endlessly over one inanity or another.

 

So, you have two choices. You could elect a capitalist democrat.. ( i know..find one... right?) or you can run Bernie. Bernie forever makes the NDP the party of socialist autocracy. Its what the trajectory of the Trotskiite clan have been moving towards, so the question is, will folks like you embrace it in a fit of rage over not getting your queen? Time will tell. I bet you get to watch socialism be entirely rejected. Will that hurt as bad as the rebuke of your queen?

 

I spose I'm in a similar boat, voting for Trump and rooting for Bernie. I like the shift that Bernie represents. I think the shift is dangerous, but probably less so than the status quo the establishmentists seek to return to. Bernie seems a true believer that collectivism will be good for the nation. I hate collectivism, but I appreciate sincere intent. The other candidates just seem like anything the establishment wants is good for their own personal advancement.

Whereas Trump sees the nations advancement and his own as the same thing. Which is in part why he's my vote.

 

This is what scares me to death. A younger generation with no life experience with no understanding how the world works. They will face a fierce reality when they realize the world is not all unicorns and rainbows.

 

The best candidate for the dems is Donald Trump. He has done more for the health and well being of democrats than any democrat that has ever come before him. Indisputable facts. Sorry.

 

Amy would give the Dems the most credibility against Trump. She’d still lose.

She has the fewest warts. Tallest midget in the room.

 

Don't think Bernie has a chance in hell of winning. The Republicans will vote Republicans, but Burnie will split the ticket on the Left. There are millions of Democrats working for the government and private business that are Democrat that isn't going to vote for Bernie to give up their company and Government health care for a government run one and much higher taxes to go with it. . Nominating Bernie will be a big win for Trump.

 

The market dropped a thousand points today because of the corona virus. Who knew? That's par with an election taking place in eight months. Some terribly good or bad stuff can happen in eight months. I'm a long way from being comfortable with Bernie, but I'm not going to blow my cool before the primaries. Then I'll blow my cool. Unless, of course, I get the corona virus.

Too rational.

 

Before the Nevada caucus I would have probably said Buttigieg since his is consistently well spoken. But given his abysmal performance among the black demographic, I just can't see him doing well enough in the general. Not when you need to win at least some of Michigan, NC, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Virginia. Although I do think he (or another moderate) is more likely to flip disaffected Trump voters that don't normally agree ideologically with the left.

Biden on the other hand did quite well in Nevada (entrance polls of ~38% of the black vote). But he is just incapable of getting beyond a couple of sentences without losing his place and rambling. Trump would chew him up in a debate.

So out of the remaining, probably between Warren and Sanders as they are the next best natural speakers. Warren would probably turn fewer moderates off without losing as many Sanders supporters. On the other hand, Sanders may bring in more new voters than Warren. Although I would add that I think fears of Sanders supporters not willing to support the D nominee if it's not him are a bit overblown. Polls for his supporters' willingness to back the D nominee regardless have been in line with other candidate's supporters.

Ultimately I guess I will tentatively go with Sanders as being the most likely to do well given his support among all demographics have been pretty good. His poor numbers among 45+ though may be his Achilles heel in a general, and would not bode well for FL.

 

I'm infinitely less concerned about being right or wrong than I am about both of us having justified well-reasoned positions in the debate.

I don't know mainstream thought. I know facts and logic.

 

Who is the best candidate for Democrats?

TRUMP is the best candidate for democrats.

 

Gratuitously accusing Sanders of being an autocrat is not going to get you or Republicans very far. The only one in the race who has demostrated beyond a shadow of a doubt their autocratic tendencies is Trump. For goodness sake... he was Impeached for it!

So projecting is not a going to make you look smart.

So if Sanders is elected that means Socialism will be accepted. Hmmmm.... Very tempting. I'm not a Sanders fan, but that does raise his stock.

 

That's a good reason. Except I'm not on the Sanders boat. By which I mean that, in my opinion, there are better options, not that he's a bad one.

 

A generation that has grown up under the daily threat of Global Warming and school shootings already knows that. Our youth has not had this much life experience at the young age since my own generation. We went awry as we reached our middle age. But,before that, we accomplished things. And so will this generation.

 

Bernie Sanders Is the best choice now that he has shed the wacky back to future scientist look in favor of the more conservative Colonel Harland Sanders look

 

The best choice, imo, is Klobuchar.

 

I don't think any Democrat has a chance of winning against Trump now that he was given a license to cheat by the Senate.

For any democrat to win we would all need to help. Democrats and Republicans alike. Your job, for example, is to convince Democrats that we're going to lose. Because Democrats become complacent when they think they're going to win. We need you to convince them that they'll lose. That would produce the enormous turnout that would be the only possibility (though small) Democrats have of winning.

So keep going! You're doing a great job!

 

I'm not talking of any of the others, only Bernie and I gave my reasons and I think they make a lot of sense. You need to get over not being able to impeach him, remember your Party has been trying for two and a half years and if you don't impeach him, he'll win again. Wonder how that will look in the history books under his impeachment? Especially if he wins again. I think it will look like the Democrats did it only to try and get back in power, or get even for beating Hillary.

 

From the perspective of a Trump supporter who hopes he'll win in November, I am glad the Democrats are not going to nominate Tulsi Gabbard.

She is more articulate, more experienced, a lot more intelligent, and a lot more classy than your entire field of leading choices.

 

Oh it's much worse than that. As one old school Dem I saw tonight on TV said Bernie has the Dems by the short and curlies. It's damned if they do and damned if they don't the Bernie Bros aren't a transferable commodity. You'd need a Butigieg/Sanders ticket and Sanders' ego won't permit that.