Obama acted before pandemic declared

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    Gaining advantage from CV19 is Trump's game.
     
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    This is the sort of filthy smear that demonstrates that there can NEVER be any compromise with you people -- or the sort of reasoned discussion that once existed in a polite society.
     
  3. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dat projection.
     
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    What a pathetic, childish thread.

    The Obama Administration declared a public health emergency very early in the H1N1 outbreak. As that outbreak started in Mexico & was spreading in the US before anyone knew it was a serious epidemic there were a handful of known cases in the US at this time. The Administration moved with appropriate speed.

    The Trump Administration declared a public health emergency on January 31 - also very early in he COVID-19 outbreak. As people can transmit the virus before they have obvious symptoms there were already a handful of known cases in the US. The Administration moved with appropriate speed.

    Whatever other mistakes either Administration made, both declared an emergency with appropriate speed. That makes most of the posts on this thread examples of the worst sort of partisanship. Just stop doing it. Everyone here can choose to be pathetic, childish, gutter crawling partisan hacks or they can choose to be intelligent adults who take responsibility for their own actions. Anyone here who wants to know what is wrong with America need only look in the mirror.
     
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    Competence matters:

    January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
    February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
    February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
    February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
    February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
    February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
    February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
    February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
    February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
    March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
    March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
    March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
    March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
    March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
    March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
    March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
    March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
    March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
    March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
    March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
    -- Competence matters...
     
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    obama superman am gonna swoops in and saves de world!

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    Exactly, PT.

    Trump didn't take it seriously, had several egregious missteps during the early days, and actually held several large rallies that helped SPREAD the Virus.

    Ol' Captain Bonespurs. We're in Good (Tiny) Hands.:roflol:

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    Yes. Please do.
     
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    There is speculation that the earth is flat too but those folks are about as bright as the ones that believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause and peepeetapes.
     
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    Well, despite Trump, Congress passed a stimulus bill.
     
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    Correct! We deal with people here who still think “the dossier” was real.
     
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    The national public health emergency was declared when you could count the cases on your fingers and toes allowing congress to act and begin special funding. The national emergency was declared when a viable vaccine was created allowing for health services to rapidly deploy the vaccine. He did what was needed when it was needed. He began with his speech that April by telling people they should not panic but be vigilant and to protect themselves by not shaking hands, washing hands frequently, staying home when sick and coughing/sneezing into your sleeve rather than your hand. He then followed through with support for scientists and doctors. No one can stop a virus only mitigate it's effect and being single minded from day one all was done that could be done.

    Trump, on the other hand...
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    Strange "politifact" didnt mention that... Nor the highly respected OP ;)
     
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    No one is obviously going to respond to you bigfella. They're too engrossed in their hatred. There's a reason I haven't been responding much in these types of threads. They're all about pounding their chests and claiming how one is better than the other.
     
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    I can't call out every example, but I am determined to call out at least some. I remember the way Ebola was politicised by a vile group of people looking for a political advantage. Some of the same people are at it again, while another set has jumped in on this virus. They are all disgusting.

    It is possible to have an informed, intelligent discussion about this virus. Unfortunately some people just have a natural affinity for the sewer.
     
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    Trump banned travel from China before one death in America. That folks is how it’s done. obama didn’t declare a national emergency until one thousand swine flu deaths
     
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    Trump declared one back in January. That’s for highlighting he’s a leader
     
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    Ten days ago this was being put together. Yesterday was the culmination and announcement of the team approach that has been formulated. You don’t snap your fingers and make these things happen.
     
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    Speculation. Lmao
     
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    Did democrats cancel their rallies at the first mention of corona ?
     
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    Do you propose that we let slide the preposterous denials? Sure, eventually, like Trump seems to have to a point, they'll come around but in the meantime they're part of the problem. So many are making huge sacrifices like the billions the NCAA will lose that it's disturbing that so many would refuse vigilance in their own lives as a contribution. An earlier post had a sequence of posts showing Trump all over the place in denial and self congratulation and his followers ate it up and are still in denial. This isn't global warming where if you kick the can down the road you may not live to see the results. In this case the road is a short one and we need to put the can in recycling. Now.
     
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    “No-deaths”...........your welcome....

    Obamas actions to PREVENT are what saved lives. Trump has done nothing but lie about what happening until his lies are untenable.
     
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    He didn’t need to because the preventative measures they took BEFORE are what saved lives.

    I love how the right cant really justify what Trump has not done, so they attack the messenger.
     
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