Professor Raoult Releases Results of New Hydroxychloroquine Treatment Study on 1061 Patients

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  1. Lesh

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    What would you call someone who uses "news" from Facebook that facebook has flagged as false and spreads it anyway?
     
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    I posted the links already. You look it up.
     
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    If Facebook flagged it as false then I would most likely call the person who spread it as honest and truthful. Facebook, like many here, have a real aversion to the truth.
     
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    No, I don't get my news from facebook. I don't even have a facebook account and don't use their site. You and Politifact are pushing more fake news.

    Sisolak: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/24/steve-sisolak-nevada-governor-bans-malaria-drugs-c/

    Whitmer: Detroit's own Detroit News: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/2020/03/26/opinion-michigans-doctors-fight-coronavirus-and-governors-office/2922272001/

    Cuomo: Washing TImes: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/5/rudy-giuliani-urges-andrew-cuomo-lift-hydroxychlor/
     
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    I have been staying on topic. This is what I wrote that you responded to "The mean age of those tested positive in the public is much older than 46 years old so would obviously have a higher death rate." followed by "The only people being tested are a small fraction of care workers and those who present themselves at hospitals with worsening symptoms and these people are mostly around 60 years old or more"

    Hence this is about those being hospitalized. The 60% figure came from your link - I even gave you the quote directly copied from your link


    And this new information which is just a different data set is just making the hole you're digging deeper. Whether it's 48% or 60% are above 54 years old is irrelevant. The sample chosen in the study had a mean age of 43.7 years old. Directly from your link, only 34% were below 44 years old. The study is flawed
     
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    It's directly from the link! Can't you read? I'll even provide the graph for you;
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    I like how they're trying to call their own Orders fake news(though I appreciate the State Senate majority leader for giving the heads up on the confusion surrounding the order. Good intentions with unfortunate results.)

    The fact is though, patients and doctors collaborate. Politicians are and should be on the outside of that. There's already medicine controls.
     
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    Trump has always said it may or may not work, the LW is trying to politicize it with their opposition.
     
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    Except the death rate was 10% of normal, isn't that the point?
     
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    With a 98% cure rate there are some patients missing if only .5% died
     
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    Even if it is a drug as widely used for over 60 years and we know already know at these doses it is safe. That one reason why Trump sign the promised bill about allow patients facing serious health problems and approved treatments failing to try drugs that have not been fully double blind test. There's a cost/benefit thing and can guaranty that if I suddenly developed symptoms of COVID I would be DEMANDING I be administered the cocktail. What have I got to lose?

    But this is my country we do what WE want to do you are free in your country to ban it and not allow it's usage the safety of the drug notwithstanding, go ahead withhold. It doesn't matter me why does what we do here matter to you?
     
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    On March 24, Sisolak signed an emergency regulation that safeguards the supply of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, which is sold under the brand name Plaquenil and as a generic. The order prohibits doctors in outpatient settings from prescribing and dispensing the drugs for COVID-19 treatment. It also limits prescriptions to 30-day supplies.

    "While the two drugs serve necessary medical purposes, there is no conclusive evidence at this time among COVID-19 experts or Nevada’s own medical health advisory team that the drugs provide treatment for COVID-19 patients,"

    They banned it for use OUTSIDE of a hospital setting. Maybe you missed that but getting your "cure" for Covid in some doctors office isn't a real good idea for a number of reasons.

    And yea...you come down with the virus and there is no hospital in the country that will deny you this drug unless there's a particular reason you should not have it (like that it might kill you)
     
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    Then we don't know if it works. :)
     
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    :lol:
    Tell us again for the 2nd Amendment only protects your right to keep and bear arms if you're a member of a well-regulated militia.
    :lol:
     
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    I think you got lost.

    2A thread down the hall
     
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    Why is it OK for YOU spread false information, but no one else?
     
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    The Commander didn't call it a cure. No one on the Task Force called it a cure. The jackasses that we call a "media"(oh, how they've fallen) call it a cure. They're a poor man's Goebbels and to make it worse: Unlike him, it's not like they have some powerful propaganda reach that influences people.

    Or if they do influence, it's for panic and fear. Not even positive propaganda. Awful rubbish all around.
     
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    Oh...you're not lost...you're trolling.

    What a shock
     
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    I've noticed a weird trend among Trumpers.

    When they lose...they nitpick over minor words or phrases.

    Fine. Substitute "treatment" for "cure"

    You post becomes pretty pointless

    Next....
     
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    Here is the quote of what I responded to.

    I’ve demonstrated your claim is not true. The mean age of all positive tests is unknown. The data we do have irrefutably shows 52% are under the age of 54. Also, the median age globally is 45-46 years old.
    I keep telling you I have no interest in hospitalization rate. It’s irrelevant. It was not what I asked you to supply initially. It is a diversion you keep reintroducing. I pull quoted the relevant data in my link. Here it is again. It was in response to your state data.


    If you actually read my link’s supporting data you would know we don’t even have age data on almost half of positive cases the CDC used. We do not know the mean age with certainty. You claimed we did and used that claim to try and discredit a study designed to parallel as nearly as possible the most common age of positive individuals worldwide.

    Please try and respond to what I post, not what you want me to care about. All I care about is correcting your error that this study does not parallel worldwide reality of age ranges. I have never had any interest in hospitalization rates. If I did I would have said so somewhere which I haven’t.

    I find it interesting that a self proclaimed rocket scientist doesn’t find the difference between his claim of 60% and reality of 48% relevant. I’m glad you aren’t in the business of mitigating this pandemic. :)
     
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    Speaking of shocked...
    You didn't address the question.
    Why is it OK for you to spread false information, but no one else?
     
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    Actually, words make a big difference. It CAN treat it for some. Not all. It has fatal effects for some, not all. And we could say that for EVERY MEDICATION on the planet. There are some people whom would suffer negative effects from my albuterol. That doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't take it thank you very much.
     
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    Jesus dude. No one is saying you CAN'T take it.

    In fact if you wanna do like that couple did have at it and stop whining
     
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    Yeh kind of funny seeing someone call the difference between treatment and cure as irrelevant. So it goes. :)
     

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