Marijuana should be illegal !!!

they can both be abused, and that is bad

but they can be good too if not abused

 

Having had a few alcoholics in my family and a few in the younger generation who have had bad results with marijuana, I am not seeing the good part. Or as a minimum the bad out weighs the good. It appears that most are trading short term pleasure for long term bad effects. I figure I need all the brain cells and lung capacity I can hang onto. Then there is the fact that I have lived over ten years longer than any of my siblings. All of them are long gone.

 

the people you hang with may abuse.. not everyone does, some can handle both, some can't

did you read the link I posted earlier, moderate marijuana smokers have stronger lungs than those that do not partake

and Einstein used Marijuana, some can't handle it because they abuse

the dose makes the poison.... alcohol can damage the brain and rest of the body

the longest living human recorded was a smoker... so you must support smoking too if that is how you judge safety

 

I could be classified as a right leaning constitutional conservative, and, no, I do not agree. The war stories bantered about today have no more credibility than the yellow journalism that was used to first outlaw marijuana. There has been not one death ever and exceptionally few serious medical anomalies caused by marijuana One need not go any further than the genesis of its outlawing to understand the irrationally of that action. Marijuana received its demise solely to protect the investments of Hearst newspapers -- particularly its recent purchase of large paper making forests, DuPont -- who had a top wood-into-paper bleaching process and was investing heavily into this new material called nylon, and Mellon Bank who financed both and was also run by the grand Uncle of the former director of alcohol prohibition enforcement and badly needed another prohibition job. Their problem was that an inventor, with Roger Timken of roller bearing fame's help had developed for the first time an efficient, cheap and quick way to extract the fibers from the marijuana stalks for making mass produced top notch paper and cloth, seriously threatening those companies.

 

Attitudes, trends. In most cases data mining cares little for the individual. It is the statistics that tell the story.

 

Isolated cases mean nothing. There are always exceptions. I can find no study that says smoking or drinking is good for your health.

"Smoke is harmful to lung health. Whether from burning wood, tobacco or marijuana, toxins and carcinogens are released from the combustion of materials. Smoke from marijuana combustion has been shown to contain many of the same toxins, irritants and carcinogens as tobacco smoke.

Beyond just what's in the smoke alone, marijuana is typically smoked differently than tobacco. Marijuana smokers tend to inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than cigarette smokers, which leads to a greater exposure per breath to tar."
https://www.lung.org/quit-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects/marijuana-and-lung-health

 

I'm a teetotaler because I find alcohol to be horribly distasteful. I just don't see how anyone could drink that poison. And when I see people drunk, their behavior is never honorable. Yet I find a marihuana high to be quite enjoyable. It is not nearly as disruptive to me, as I see alcohol disrupting others.

I lived with an alcoholic for awhile. She would wake in the morning, grumpy as hell untill she threw down a cup of coffee and a 24 oz can of beer. That was to get her up to normal. Over the course of the day she'd drink another beer, or two, to keep her going. Once it got into the later afternoon, early evening, she'd drink some more. It would make her happy and funny, just as friends began to drop by. But as the night wore on, and she consumed more beer, or even whiskey, and her friendliness, her cheerfulness would fade away, only to be replaced with a meanness and anger you didn't want to be around. Especially when she began to vomit. Day after day.

I've never seen pot smokers so afflicted.

 

Yet studies have shown that moderate to light pot smokers, who do not also smoke tobacco, tend to have a greater lung capacity than the general population. Holding one's hit, may be making one's lungs stronger, as long as one does not over do it.

 

you can bet if a non-smoker took the title of the longest living person, the anti-smokers would run with that big time, it does mean something

and yes, that is why Marijuana smokers have stronger lungs for the most part, you are correct - one of the benefits of moderate marijuana use

Obama smoked Marijuana, Trump did not, which is healthier and less brain-damaged? Which has a healthier state of mind and body?

Moderate stress for short durations on the body makes it stronger, excessive long term constant stress damages it as it can not repair fast enough

taking ice baths or really hot baths occasionally is good for you, but constantly doing it excessively could be damaging, same with many things, the body is a amazing machine

 

You could hold your breath without drawing poison into it.

 

So Dr. Phil helped Howie Long with his erectile dysfunction? I wonder if steroid use was involved..



Marihuana is a love drug. A natural aphrodisiac.

 

Make it as legal and under the the same basic rules as alcohol and tobacco. No driving and no smoking in public spaces. Let businesses decide how they want to treat it, although most will keep it out of the workplace for obvious reasons.

 

Isolated cases are meaningless. Show me a study which shows that marijuana is healthy. Since no one has came up with one, I assume you aren't trying or you have not found one. I can find hundreds saying it is not healthy with a simple google. It appears to be a case of mass denial.

 

You haven’t met my mother. She smokes pot sometimes to the point of being incoherent. On top of that she has depression so adding a depressant on top of her depression makes her unbearable to be around. No matter how many times myself, her PCP and her psychiatrist have told her pot is making her more depressed she basically gives us all the middle finger and keeps smoking it. So while her situation might be rare, especially compared to alcohol, pot can produce situations that are unbearable to be around.

 

no one denies that, each person is different, we just saying it should not be illegal

same with things like ecstasy and magic mushrooms, some people benefit, others do not, they are even showing it helps the mind heal from things like PTSD

by making these things illegal, we are denying people that could be helped by them all cause some people have an addictive personality and abuse

 

wrong, you show me a study that shows it's more harmful than alcohol or too much sun

I already posted studies to the benifits

until then, it should be legal and up to each person to decide for themselves, this is a free country, we do not need big government deciding for us

 

I don't care whether it is more harmful than alcohol or the sun. I try to avoid both. Show me a study showing it has overall beneficial results.

My point is that it is harmful whether legal or illegal. Go ahead and poison yourself. But don't claim it is beneficial and lead other people, especially young people, down that road.

 

You’re preaching to the choir

 

Today's meddlesome & self righteous Neo prohibitionists who want to continue the ban on marijuana like to categorize those who do smoke as borderline catatonic losers who stumble around in a drug induced stupor.

Regrettably, they are as poorly versed in medicine as they are in history or else they would know that some of history's greatest minds have been occasionally infused with the "evil weed".

Some of the more noteworthy leaders who smoked cannabis were JFK, England's Queen Victoria, Queen Elizabeth 1, George Washington, and Ottoman Sultan Abdulaziz 1 who introduced America to Turkish hashish by donating 1 ton of the product at the 1876 World's fair.

This is by no means a complete list of great minds who shaped history while concurrently indulging in cannabis but masters of art, literature and science too have enriched our world while smoking the weed so vehemently condemned by smaller minded neo prohibitionists.

Even though the pages of this thread are replete with arguments for and against the use of marijuana, the answer is simple:
- If you don't like smoking marijuana, you don't have to.
Meanwhile, it's long past time to decriminalize this simple plant that is far less harmful to society than America's draconian and counterproductive drug laws that have ruined so many lives.


"50 Successful Marijuana Users Who Prove The Person Matters More Than The Plant"
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/most-famous-marijuana-users_n_5160073

 

Oh look another salty drug warrior impotently complaining about legal weed

Must be that time of year again

Your government enforced morality has destroyed countless live and communities,cry me a river.

 

Just as a side note to your post. I am a very successful person, and make well into 6 figures. I smoke pot EVERY SINGLE DAY.

It helps me with chronic pain, anxiety, among others.

 

Then maybe we should outlaw wood, charcoal, coal, lighter fluid, gasoline, natural gas, and internal combustion exhaust (which would mean the internal combustion itself). How about hot dogs? Many say they are carcinogenic. Which brings up California: do you have any idea how many hundreds of things the State of California has determined contain harmful ingredients??

 

At this particular point in time it would be easier to provide a list of things and substances the state of California has not found to contain harmful ingredients.

 

I don't intentionally inhale smoke into my lungs in the concentrations which marijuana smokers do. When the smoke from other sources drifts my way, I move.

 

which is fine, you can choose not to drink or do drugs as I do, but we should not decide for others, they should be legal

if shrooms were legal, I would probably do them once a year as I feel they are beneficial to the brain