Marijuana should be illegal !!!

Sex on weed is the best!

 

You are being intellectually dishonest.
How can you have a major long-term medical study of a substance that is so illegal, most research agencies can’t even get their hands on the substance legally without risking jail, fines, withdrawal of funding and shut down?

I can give you my personal experience - ever since I completely stopped booze in favor of pot my long-term blood pressure dropped by 20 points (I kid you not!) and I dropped so far 30 lbs. If this holds out then the long term health benefit is massive!
I told my MD about this and he told me to keep this up. Believe it or not, a medical doctor told his patient to continue consuming cannabis. Can you imagine a doctor saying the same about cigarettes or alcohol? And I don’t even have a medical marijuana license and never asked for prescription for it.

 

I also choose to warn other people about the dangers while you claim there are benefits while ignoring the dangers and the many studies war.

 

Take a look at the studies.

I don't care much about individual experiences. They are just isolated cases. When all those isolated cases are analyzed, the studies say they are harmful.

I take a large number of prescriptions. There is a long list of side effects for each one of them. Did your doctor warn you about the side effects like lung cancer and dementia?

 

I tend to be a conservative-leaning moderate and to me, war on drugs is the biggest hypocrisy of the Republican Party and RINOs.
How can you preach personal responsibility and self reliance when you deny others rights to consume some substance? I can somehow (not completely) understand the argument against abortion, but not arguments supporting war on drugs or prostitution.

If you are a true conservative who truly believes in self-reliance and great autonomy of local communities then you would never argue against the rights of any adult individual to engage in consumption of intoxicants (alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, cannabis etc.), or the rights to engage in sexual relationships with others for money. If you preach self-reliance, personal responsibility, autonomy of states and then claim that people should be fined or put to jail for consumption of an herb then you are not a conservative - you are a fascist, the type that many liberals claims conservatives are.
I hope that with time conservatives will truly embrace their ideals. It’s already looking like they are starting to moderate their views. Let’s hope this progresses further to a truly conservative Republican Party that really adheres to true conservative ideology of minimal state and government authority over individuals liberty and freedoms.
I don’t support democrats because of their victimization of everything, blatant racism against whites, income redistribution and financial support of lifelong losers on welfare. Because of that I tend to vote republican. But republican war on drugs and prostitution, and their views on women sometimes result in me being a swing voter.
Get a life and care about your own affairs! Let others do anything they want! Be a true conservative who truly advocates minimal government instead of a police state that ruins people’s lives because someone in the community doesn’t like a smell or doesn’t like the fact that some women are willing to engage in sexual activities to earn some extra cash.

 

There are virtually none because the plant is so illegal that no formal study can be conducted. The studies you quote are based on self-reporting (no different then my own experiences) and many tend to not report alcohol abuse to doctors because our society made alcohol such a huge part of our lives that many real alcoholics honestly believe they don’t have any problems.
I’ve even seen studies claiming cannabis raises blood pressure. Sorry, but I’m a living, breathing example that refutes that study.

I’ll start believing these studies once cannabis is at least legal enough for a research agency to raise the plant and give it to a few thousand people in isolated environment and then compare the effects to a control group.

 

https://www.livescience.com/48171-marijuana-research-health-effects-review.html
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...ies-show-long-term-effects-cannabis-the-brain
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323673
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/
There are literally hundreds of studies.

 

What lung cancer? I vape and eat edibles. I don’t deal with tar.
Legal vape literally has a concentration of 80%-90% THC and are tested for contaminants, pesticides and other nasty things by third parties. I do have about 10 grams of flower at home, but I smoke it rarely because it stinks and I don’t want my kids to smell it off me. I generally smoke it when nobody is home, which might happen once every week or two.
As for dementia - no one is insured against it, whether you consume pot or not. Same thing could be said about Alzheimer’s.
My doctor says he considers cannabis to be very safe and it actually has additional benefits - for example when I stopped booze in favor of pot my mood stabilized a lot, even my wife says that. As a result our relationship improved. I’ve seen nothing but good coming out of cannabis.
If this universe evolved around you then I’d be in prison for consuming an herb that never hurt anyone and that actually helped me immensely.

 

Never hurt anyone? That is so wrong that it is pathetic.

 

Your first link is about teenagers and young adults, who tend to do stupid things whether on MJ or booze. I never advocated teenagers using alcohol or pot.
Second link mentioned a study of 40 people - if you really have an engineering degree like you claim then you’d be embarrassed to even show such an abuse of statistical analysis.
Your third link actually claims that pot is good for people with Alzheimer’s.

Your own links prove my point about these studies - that they are inconclusive and many rely on self-reporting and anecdotal evidence.

 

Is that what this says?
"Cannabis use has been shown to impair cognitive functions on a number of levels—from basic motor coordination to more complex executive function tasks, such as the ability to plan, organize, solve problems, make decisions, remember, and control emotions and behavior. These deficits differ in severity depending on the quantity, recency, age of onset and duration of marijuana use. Understanding how cannabis use impairs executive function is important. Individuals with cannabis-related impairment in executive functions have been found to have trouble learning and applying the skills required for successful recovery, putting them at increased risk for relapse to cannabis use. Here we review the research on the acute, residual, and long-term effects of cannabis use on executive functions, and discuss the implications for treatment."

You appear to have a severe case of denial.

 

You are the one in denial advocating ruining people’s lives over an herb.

Newsflash - marijuana has intoxicating effects. Replace the word cannabis with alcohol in that quote and it holds true as well.

 

It doesn’t.
I know a ton of people who consume pot frequently and are successful in life. I also know people who are sober and work for $13/hour.
For any case you find of people being hurt by cannabis I can find you 100 cases of people being hurt by alcohol and nicotine.

 

And both have long term negative effects. Apparently, you have missed what I have said several times. Alcohol is even worse than marijuana. Also, marijuana has positive medicinal effects for certain conditions. However, recreational use is rarely for medicinal purposes.

 

I consider tobacco and alcohol worse than marijuana. That does not mean that marijuana is generally good for you. Only that it is not as bad as other substances.

 

So what? Why do you consider it to be OK for someone drinking beer or wine every day and demonize those who consume cannabis, which doesn’t even have to involve smoking? What happened to personal responsibility?
I have a friend who has real alcohol problems and he just went through a divorce. When he was over for a night he drank 6 beers, but made a couple of trips to his car and his breath smelled like he drank a heck of a lot more than 6 beers. He says he’d love to switch to pot instead, but in his state it’s illegal and he could lose his job if he is randomly tested by his employer. So, you have an individual whose life is being ruined by alcohol because our current government literally railroads him into use of substance that is very addictive and can cause severe mental disturbances. His only legal option is to either continue feeding his addiction or to go completely sober. Why can’t he decide for himself? Why is alcohol legal and pot is illegal?
Withdrawal from alcohol can be deadly, withdrawal from pot is comparable to caffeine withdrawal.

I believe people should have the right to chose for themselves. The only drugs I’d keep illegal are pretty much synthetic substances which are really proven to cause major problems - meth, heroin (and even that id prefer legal nurse administration of drug instead of street use), and synthetic replacements of illegal (currently) drugs such as spice and bath salts.

You have no right to dictate other people what to do.

 

Which makes it a hypocrisy and injustice keeping weed illegal while keeping tobacco and alcohol legal.

 

So you're OK with ten year olds having access to meth. Right?

That certainly computes, given that what passes for the law has less to to with justice by the day.

Seeing Charlie Parker made them look like musical imbeciles by comparison, we may reasonably infer that if weed is good, smack is even better.

I'm sure we all appreciate this testament to your credibility.

 

What does that have to do with what I have said? Weed is dangerous. Because something else is more dangerous does not make it any less dangerous.

 

what dangers

 

Read the links.

 

"We all"? From the yguy that's posted here almost 20k times since 2010 and has about 1k likes. Seems the stats do not support that you speak on behalf of the forum.

 

Very bad drug

 

thank you for admitting alcohol is worse than marijuana, and admitting it has medical value, so why is one a scheduled one substance (which requires it have no medical value, which marijuana does)

if the DEA can't follow their own rules for scheduling drugs, that is sad

https://www.dea.gov/drug-scheduling

"Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse."

 

Marijuana is better then alcohol.