United States First Quarter Contraction.

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  1. FlamingLib

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    On policy, I don't think they would be all that much different. On leadership, empathy, and decency? You couldn't pick two more polar opposites than Obama and Trump. The Democrat President would sound like Obama or Cuomo. Trump sounds like a narcissistic moron.

    And a President Clinton may have been a lot more on the ball a lot earlier. Don't forget, she was Sec of State during two health emergencies, and I think SARS and MERS.
     
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    Totally incorrect. No communication with NK during Obama, we were on our way to fighting with NK.
     
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    For tariffs, the reason for them were to disrupt China's Belt and Road policy which has been successful and has forced other countries to find suppliers outside of China. The only ones wrong about Hydroxychloroquine has been the media because the information came from doctors in the field. Now the media is touting Remdesivir based on the manufacturers claims and no field experience. Hydroxychoroquine is cheap and plentiful and has been used for decades. Remdesivir is new and will net Giliad bucks.
     
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    I recall making a prediction based on my opinion... not 'making a claim'...

    Are you sure you just couldn't find a better way to say 'I disagree'?
     
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    Hope is lost with Trump. He lost that a long time ago and reinforces it daily.
     
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    Do you ever bother to fact check anything you post?
    There were multiple talks between the Obama and North Korean governments, including a long 6 Country negotiation and
    the 2012 Food for deNuke negotiations.

    Of course, now you will post that those talks don't count, because a treaty wasn't reached - but Trump wasn't able to get
    a treaty either.
     
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    A prediction based upon opinion = a claim.
     
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    Not once did Obama talk with the NK leader.
     
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    The tariffs were unsuccessful. The chloroquine recommendation came from a minority of doctors but mostly from Navarro and Trump. Most doctors were against it. Not all doctors are equally knowledgeable or qualified. Those who rushed in with Chloroquine were foolish.
     
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    I'm not sure how you could so badly misinterpret my post, unless it was an intentional effort to create some sort of cover for the truth of it.
     
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    Pure horse pucky based on feelings and not facts. Trump mentioned it and the left went bananas and vilified Hydroxychloroquine which came from field experience.

    The disruption of the Belt and Road policy has hurt China's economy and that was the reason to implement tariffs. Decades of pandering to China has ruined US manufacturing. Trump was right.
     
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    There is no field experience that justifies that drug.

    But:
    Check this out: Stock market news live updates: Stocks rise on hopes of COVID-19 treatment
    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stock-market-news-live-april-29-2020-221407672.html
     
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    And I remember the collective right wing aneurysm when Obama proposed the possibility of a meeting if certain conditions were met. But there was communication with North Korea, despite your claim that there wasn't.
     
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    Yet what did Trump really accomplish? Except for a slight nudge btw SK and NK; NADA.
     
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    That is where the justification came from, field experience but then I bet you think doctors don't know what they are doing and only the media or wall street does, especially when it is a new drug and not a well known drug out of patent.
     
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    Obama never talked to or met with the NK leader. It wasn't even considered during Obama.
     
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    I know, the left whined and whined about Trump not being diplomatic enough and when he is diplomatic the left whines and whines. Face it, if Trump cured cancer the left would whine about putting doctors out of business.
     
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    I work with doctors. I respect them. However, some are good clinically and some are not. Most doctors disapproved of rushing to use the drug
     
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    So I guess you think those having great success with Hydroxychloroquine are not good doctors and those that have not tried it are good doctors. Fascinating.
     
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    They are not having great success. There are some who did favorably respond, but very small number of people, most with intolerable side effects. For most people it does not work at all.
     
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    Like the doctor in Italy with over 1,000 patients on it that claims it shortens the illness from 10 to 12 days to 3?
     
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    Not according to Fox News.
    Google "How Fox News reacted to Obama's proposal to meet with North Korea". It's quite entertaining ...
     

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