A 25-year-old black man was shot dead in Georgia while jogging, prompting online protests labeling t

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  1. Mandelus

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    Just a case of countless more cases where, thanks to gun laws, everyone can legally arm themselves and even the police officers play with fatal consequences.
    And of course in the end it was the own fault of the black people in mind of many, because he could have handed himselve over to the armed idiots and murders. If there were the death penalty in my country like in the USA, the shooters would end up on electric chair / at the lethal injection ... and rightly so!

    But as a foreigner, I honestly have a shrug for such cases for a long time, as well as for the countless school massacres and other massacres with gun use in the USA ... why? You don't want to improve it in the USA with all the many reasons told by you alone here in this forum against any interference against existing with weapons law. So ... sorry ... I don't care about!
     
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    I get you skepticism, I usually am too. For this case all I went off of was the video and Greg's own statements which has made me believe this was an act of racism and bigotry. If the activists can keep the focus on this incident and not go all hyperbole or hypothetical painting America/the south/white people/cops as racist, it will be a win. The media though will try to hype it up though, cant wait till they claim this was Trumps fault.
     
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    Yeah, you should go back to ignoring the rape gangs of Pakistani refugees that your cops will ignore for the sake of diversity.
     
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    I believe the local police dept and the first DA should be arrested as well. Also them being arrested is just a start, it's not a formal charge yet. We still have a long road ahead of us, the jury in this trial if they are indicted is going to be huge.
     
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    There needed to be a prosecutor not associated with the defendants to proceed with drawing charges. If the DA purposely over charged them, and they get off like Zimmerman or Casey Anthony, that would be a problem. If he under charged them, then the bias would be a problem. There had been no grand jury's in the state because of the lock down. They charged them with murder.
     
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    Sure ... because your so well armed citizens would have made a mass shooting in this situation and slaughtered all which have not a german enough looking, eh?

    And again one of these bullcrap fake news milling around in the USA about a European / German issue. Aside point that you in the USA have such issues on daily bases with native Americans doing so ... we not even per year ... it was a faul tof the local and federal police in coordination and cmmunication and planning for this sylverster night at this place.
     
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    Good, your opinion is irrelevant here anyway, however...

    News will sensationalize anything. Notice we've had no mass shootings in the US since the lock down?

    But all those guns! Why aren't those guns out shooting people?

    Because the gun isn't the problem.

    We know this because murders in Chicago, Memphis, Baltimore, St. Louis, and other large Democrat cities are continuing on.

    So, we've concluded its not the gun, but the....?

    Fill in the blank.
     
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    Are you simultaneously saying I shouldn't believe the American news about the EU/German rape gangs as you are lecturing me about gun violence that you heard from EU/German news networks?
     
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    I am also skeptical of videos and reportedly what someone said. There is such an effort to push for "social justice" that folks will lie, cheat and steal for what they view is the "greater good". Unless someone has real irrefutable evidence of racism I brush it off as BS.
     
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    LOL! Perhaps you can get the NY Times, CNN, MSNBC and other media outlets to be the jury. They have already convicted these guys.
     
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    Well, the older one, Greg, said he, Ahmuad, matched a description of a person who broke in and robbed a home. But it never does say what parts of the description actually dis Ahmuad match other than being black. I am a very middle of the road sitter that looks at logic and evidence. I am not caring about Ahmuad's past, or even caring about him looking around a construction site which is LEGAL to do. I formed my opinion based off the video which was recorded by Gregs other son and Greg's statement to the police.
     
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    The second DA worked in a neighboring county. His son worked in the office the older McMichaels had worked but had retired they never knew each other.
     
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    Hey, the mother asked and he obliged. The Grand jury charged them with Murder, so there should be no perceived bias.
     
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    im not claiming they can claim self defense but surrender was certainly his best option. The comparison to 9 11 is a horrible one. They outnumbered them considerably and they had blades. Would have been an easy win if they fought. This guys chances of victory were non existent.
     
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    So saying he matched the description of a criminal is somehow racist? Meh, sounds like poppycock to me. I need more to go on than that.

    The media is no different than these guys. They claim these guys matched the description of racists so it must be true.

    I would like to see some real evidence.
     
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    I predicted it would go to trial and the Georgia Dept. of Investigation arrested last night. Reports don't say what degree is the murder charge. Don't know if they are usurping the grand jury and it is going straight to trial or just a show to calm down the masses and the rhetoric. As I have said I hope they can develope more evidence either way it would be just as much a travesty of justice that two men go to prison because it was made a racial issue and the mob prevailed over a fair trial as two men guilty of murder getting off.
     
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    Its a matter of whether you give up to captors or fight them, but just assuming being captured is just going to turn out "fine" is not a great way to think about that situation. I don't want to put my life in the hands of someone else.
     
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    Only if you ignore the evidence.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
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    The grand jury is the one that put the charges up as murder. Do they need to bring it to another grand jury before a trial?
     
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    I used to try and find the truth in these hoaxes because they are always overblown if not outright lies. Now I just play the odds by assuming they are phony from the get go. So far I am batting 1000 by doing this and I do not waste much time and energy on them.
     
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    The first DA said they were justified in their actions and why didn't the cop on the scene arrest them. He just took their word for what happened.
     
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    Why don't we just grab our pitchforks go to their house grab them and lynch them up on the nearest tree? Who needs a trial around here?
     
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    As in the Zimmerman case just because he was acquitted doesn't mean he didn't kill Trayvon. Hell OJ was acquitted in a Court of Law, but you guys still label him a murderer.
     
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    You mean like they used to do to black folks.
     
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