Black man dies after video shows officer kneeling on neck

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  1. Surfer Joe

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    Lol...did you just cotton on to that fact?
    There’s a 50% chance that you’re replying to a bot anyway.
     
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    Remains to be seen, all down to the evidence.
     
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    Yes you do, happens again and again, not wrong for him put his knee on his neck but to keep it there for that length of time and after he'd stopped resisting is manslaughter, it's far too reckless.
     
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    Not trolling, making a salient argument. Tovarisch.
     
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    No it's not an accident, it is negligent.
     
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    Thanks. You're just another cop hating racist, and your citing me is a mere annoyance.
     
  8. Farnsworth

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    All this rubbish re the 'guy can't breathe' ... so how could he talk if couldn't breathe? Sorry for your BS handwaves and assorted attempts at making yet another thug look 'innocent n stuff!', but that isn't physically possible.

    And, we have the usual "Let's loot a big store!!!' from the usual assortment of feral animals, who are also apparently exempt from criminal charges according to the usual left wing racists here.
     
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    Nice to see I'm not the only one thinking this way:



    A Prosecutor could charge 1st degree murder and all lesser included offenses.

    Could be but a prosecutor should charge 1st degree murder and all lesser included offenses (negligent homicide). The process includes discovery. Then a jury decides the degree of the offense (with any new evidence gleaned through discovery).
     
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    :buggered:´ ~ Joe Biden says this guy ain't black if he didn't Vote JOE ! :neutral:
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    that would be torture, it should be catch and release if they are no longer allowed to neutralize perpetrators with deadly force.
     
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    Yes because we should always listen to long haired weirdos on YouTube? Is this guy a cop or lawyer or anything?

    No, there's no premeditation, no mens rea, no malice aforethought, they were perfectly justified in arresting him and using force when he resisted. One officer used slightly too much and he is negligent.

    That said I like his cat.
     
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    What to do with the rioters and looters? Kill the bastards.
     
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    So.......

    Why did those Bastards call the Ambulance? When did that bloke die? Where did he die? Did I watch him die? What did he die of?
     
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    Why did those Bastards call the Ambulance? When did that bloke die? Where did he die? Did I watch him die? What did he die of?
     
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    All remain to be established,
     
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    knee on the neck while they are moving is the policy, officer was following the book

    it was longer than necessary because he thought the crowd would rush him
     
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    It is a nice cat.
    But regardless of his looks, he's is almost right. (He leaves out the "and all lesser included offenses" part which is vital). You could be correct. Maybe there is no mens rea or malice aforethought. You don't know that. If discovery shows that yes, this was a planned out murder, you've charged it. Nothing new comes up in discovery, a jury could find negligent homicide. Though, having watched the video, a jury could decide the cop murdered him just because he felt like doing so and thought being a cop he could get away with it. What I'm writing though is what the prosecutor needs to charge.
    Suppose discovery finds the cop on the guy's neck had been getting kickbacks from the victim. And those kickbacks had stopped over the last 3 weeks. At a minimum, would you drop the negligent part?
     
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    REALLY? Well that puts things in a different perspective for the first officer if he was following the official guidelines and almost instantly lets the others of the hook, hopefully they'll sue for unfair dismissal and get a big payout.
     
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    Yes, and that is obvious. Now we get to see if Minnesota pols pander to the lynch mobs of his fellow criminals and railroad him and his partners like the Republican pols in Georgia are doing re Arbuery or whatever the Darwin Award winner's name was.
     
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    Yes, absolutely, that would be motive and if the other cops were in on it they would all be guilty because that would be joint enterprise on their part. But is there any suggestion of this?

    Equally has the autopsy been performed yet? Do we even know that this is definitively what caused his death? It could be another Eric Garner case.
     
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    We don't know yet. What we do know is that we saw the cop kneel on the guy's neck for an extensive period of time while people, including someone claiming to be a fire rescue worker, begging him to stop.

    What if the victim died from a brain hemorrhage or heart attack. If restricted breathing were a contributing factor, could a reasonable juror find that the cop showed depraved indifference and convict on 2nd degree murder? I think so.
     
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    the mob are the cowards for distracting the officer from doing his job, looting, and rioting.
     
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    But that would assume they would have prior knowledge of his medical conditions. Again the Eric Garner case is very relevant here, he turned out to have died due to prior heart problems and resisting arrest so the grand jury refused to indict.
     

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