Black man dies after video shows officer kneeling on neck

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  1. MissingMayor

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    Now you are just making stuff up. Nothing definitively says he was in cardiac distress that early.
     
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    If the ******* jurors let him off the country will burn to the ground.
     
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    We don't know what we don't know, I'm gonna trust the authority, the official people and everything. I've always leaned, for better or worse towards the official authority. I've never rebelled, and I think that's why I've been able to live a low key life you know?
     
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    And that will do what...exactly? Other than undermine the justice system. Passion cannot be led to the decisions in the court room, AG Barr would agree with this sentiment as well, in order for justice to truly remain the hallmark of what it means to be an American.
     
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    Rest In Peace.

    Very sad -- racism is alive in USA.

    I am Jewish -- not European.
     
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    Who is behind and funding Antifa?
     
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    What that the ME found was caused by something Chauvin did?

    The officers didn't cause the situation that brought on the cardiac arrest.


    And it's just been taken out of their hands and now in Ellison's hands who says what is important now is justice but he confuses what is that justice. Justice now is that the accused get a fair. If he goes into this with an overcharge and there's an acquittal........... I expect the defense to put on the case that Floyd was already a soon to be dead man before he went down due to the cardiac event and all they have to do is raised a reasonable doubt that as horrendous as the officers act once on the ground they didn't cause his death. And they may have a good case.
     
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    You are starting to tell stale jokes. There is no justice in America and there has never been any.
     
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    We can't see what's happening in the car, except a struggle. Floyd could be resisting....or they could be using excess force and strangling him inside the car (causing him to repeat "I can't breathe".) We don't know. Everyone is speculating.

    That link posted is from an anti- cop "aboloish the police" activists so viewer comments on there are likely to be biased toward "the cops were beating him in the squad car".

    We don't know.
     
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    ~ This we know for certain : Floyd was not in cardiac distress before the altercation.✔

    So far this all looks very bad for the police ...
     
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    Chauvin used the incident to deliberately murder Floyd because he had a personal vendetta against Floyd. He was counting on getting away with it because the elite, such as Amy Klobuchar, had always covered for him in the past. An actual investigation might reveal that Chauvin’s wife and Floyd knew each other and Chauvin killed Floyd because of that.

    The two main motives for murder are sex and money. This was not the usual instance of a cop claiming to kill a black man because he feared for his life. It was personal.
     
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    None of that has anything to do with my post.
     
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    You do not know that he was in cardiac distress before he hit the ground. The ME prelimary notes, what little there are, says nothing except that Floyd "had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease".

    You are insisting that he was in cardiac distress....that is nothing but speculation.
     
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    My source says that white people do an equal amount of drug related crimes. So you know.... if you're going to claim that black people have lower morals because they are black,... than good for you and your stormfront background.
     
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    Did you see an Antifa sign? I can't find it.
     
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    I don't know...look it up if you're interested.
     
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    What cardiac event???? The one you're sure of in your own mind? Having heart disease as an underlying health condition does not equal that he started having a heart attack early into the arrest.
     
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    Sigh. You and bluesguy should write a crime fiction novel together with your imaginations.
     
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    Oh yeah I did. But you know. It's rather obvious that 3 cops were crushing a guy to death with their full weight on his chest and neck. It took a lot of minutes to watch his hands tied behind his neck and the cops hands in their pockets. And them 3 cops and that 1 cop standing by saw no harm in suffocating a black man like that. Them are just 4 racist thugs who are white men of their time in the US. lots of white people are like that in the US. That's why we get to see such police brutality so often, mostly against black people by white thugs with badges. The culture simply remained even though the Jim Crow laws got removed. And I figure lots of white Americans on this forum think nothing is wrong as well. You could be one. Not impressed.
     
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    And if he did, he wouldn't have survived long enough to be restrained and on the ground to begin with. That stuff happens super quick. It also happens suddenly, hence why it's one of the "silent killers" and also one of our prolific ones(before covid happened that is.)
     
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    They didn't call an ambulance until 8:22pm. By that time, Chauvin had been kneeling on Floyd already for several minutes and medics were not called until almost 3 minutes before Floyd stopped breathing between 8:24-8:25.

    So if they "knew" he was in cardiac arrest around the start time of the arrest, then they are most definitely negligent, and what's the phrase - "depraved negligence", for not calling an ambulance until Chauvin had nearly completed exacerbating Floyd's death.

    I missed this video from yesterday with a more detailed timeline and details.

     
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    the police man is not a doctor and the taxpayers cannot afford to train him as one.

    cardiac arrest means mcdonald's holds liability and not the state nor the officer.
     
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    We have video of the “culpable negligence creating an unreasonable risk” of serious bodily harm and a dead suspect who died during the act.

    I think kneeling on his neck for 8 minutes and ignoring Floyd's pleas for relief from the neck pressure because it was making it difficult for him breathe, before he died, is likely to be viewed by the Jury as meeting the elements of the manslaughter charge.
     
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    Your opinion is a joke. My source stands.

    My source says exactly that.

    http://amsterdamnews.com/news/2019/jul/13/report-blacks-seven-times-more-likely-whites-be-wr/
    It's systematic that their peers are far more often convicting black people wrong.
    It also takes 25% more time for a innocent black man to get out of jail.

    Statistics show that black people get a longer sentence compared to white people for the same offense and same criminal background. So yeah.. that's how racism works when institutionalized.

    I just did. And you're reply so far is like... not valid, I know best.

    Of course it's not constitutional. Took for ever to ban racist stereotyping = putting most of your justice resources to hunt down minorities. Get them convicted more often, and go for that 3rd strike rule,... while never mind criminal white people doing the same stuff. I presented a source that this is still happening. And the first thing you do is dismiss it, with nothing to back it up.
     
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    The words "cardiac arrest" are not in any documents anywhere (except on this PF thread).
     

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