I can understand why the police act the way they act

Disheveled, dirty, unkempt.

I doubt it. Do you think he pulls his gun on every black person he sees?

 

Sigh. You need to show us the numbers in the cite.

 

How about the creepy subculture that centers around gun ownership. There is a large part of the homeless population that buys onto that. That is why one always sees so many homeless wearing camouflage clothing.

 

53.1% of the total murder
28.7% of the total rape
54.3% of the total robbery
33.5% of the total aggravated assault
29.8% of the total larceny and
35.7% of the total violent arson

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime-in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-43

That better?

 

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...loyd-patrick-skinner-interview-militarization

 

I’ve often thought of the best way to quickly disarm a group of individuals. Being an electrical engineer, the first thought is to zap a little electric jolt into the mix. The problem however is that it isn’t a very portable solution. A taser only works up close. Too close for a burger with a gun.

Yet to entertain myself these past few months I got myself a cheap little drone. It works off of my phone which got me to thinking. If I can control it with my phone, I can control it with my computer. And if I can use my computer to control a drone, I can use my computer to control a flock of drones. By using AI technology I can issue one command and all the parts will respond according to their position at the time. It also has the advantage, that with each having a camera, and many drones, views from many sides will allow for easy 3D modeling of a target adding a whole other dimension to targeting.

I’ve considered mounting firearms on the drones but it seems to me that they would not handle the recoil very well and a mechanism to counteract it would overly complicate things. Unless I made them much more massive, which I’d rather not do. The weapon that I have chosen is $&@+ balls. Small exploding devices that make things smell really bad.

Imagine the scene. A group of right ring gun club members are all gathered to defend their town against the dreaded “antifa”. But “antifa” never shows up because the real life antiFa doesn’t act like right wing media pretends they act. So here you have it, a bunch of gun toters out on a snipe hunt, looking for snipe (antifa). When off in the distance what looks like a flock of small birds seem to be approaching. No one pays them much attention. Suddenly the flock is upon them and rather than birds they are drones forming into swarm mode. Before the militia below can figure out what is going on, they find themselves pelted with dozens of little $&@+ balls. Much in the way bees tend to eliminate their waste. So as they appeared, the little drones quietly fly off into the distance. The militia standing there smelling like they just crawled out of an outhouse.

 

I’m a cop. I won’t fight a ‘war’ on crime the way I fought the war on terror.
The failed strategy I participated in for years as a CIA officer is not how to police people I consider my neighbors. It’s not how to police at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/06/03/beat-cop-militarized-policing-cia/

"When I left the CIA, I no longer wanted to fight our “war on terror.” For seven years after the 9/11 attacks, I served as an operations officer in the CIA counterterrorism center. My role in our efforts overseas was small but left a large impression on me: We were creating more tensions and threats than we countered or mitigated. By approaching the issue as a “war,” we fought it as one, and this was a categorical mistake. There were significant tactical achievements, but overall it has been a strategic defeat, costing lives, money and opportunities. We focused on who and what we were fighting against instead of who and what we were fighting for, and in the shade of that difference, a rot grew. So I came to worry about what we were doing. And then I came home.

I’m now a cop in my hometown, Savannah, Ga., and I don’t want to fight another war — our “war on crime.” But I’m not going anywhere. I’m just speaking up, to propose that we end what never was a war to begin with. We need to change our mind-set about what it means to “police” in America. At this moment of maximal national tension and outrage, when national leaders are calling the streets of America a “battlespace,” with police officers as warriors who should “dominate” and give “no quarter,” I am telling whoever will listen: Police are not warriors — because we are not and must not be at war with our neighbors."

 

Ever raise pigs? If you give them adequate range, they are mostly peaceful, easy to get along with animals. Playful even. But if you pack them in the pens like factory farms do, they attack and bite each other. On factory farms they cut off the tails and file down teeth to prevent injuries. Same with chickens. The tighter the spaces, the worse the conditions, the more they fight.

Social scientist have recognized this for a long time. There seems to be a direct correlation between population density and violence. New York City was a horribly violent place long before Blacks began moving there. The violence was between Italians and the Irish and Greeks and Puerto Rican’s and who ever else was there at the time. Pack enough people into squalor and violence is all but guaranteed.

 

This past week I have had my faith in the American system restored. When Trump wanted to go full Stalin on the protestors, the military pushed back.

I still think that too many cops don’t get that they are the problem, but I also think many do see the writing on the wall. Something has got to change.

Kind of weird comparing media. On the Right, they seem to be concentrating on the violence by the protestors while the Left, as in late night comedians, have been showing video after video of the police acting badly and openly acting badly as dozen of bystanders pull out their phones. Scenes of the police physically attacking clearly identified news crews.

Apparently there have been repeated instances of peaceful protestors being attacked by squads of club wielding officers. All caught on camera. Even of a police officer walking along breaking windows with a hammer.

 

That’s interesting so maybe you’d like to explain the groups that are also clustered in those confined areas and don’t have the level of violent crime blacks do.

Or maybe you’d like to explain why, AT EVERY LEVEL OF INCOME, blacks commit a disproportionate level of violent crime as compared to their peers within that same income level.

 

White Americans use drugs at about the same rate as Blacks, yet far more Blacks are arrested for drugs. Most cops are not all that smart, which means that most crimes are solved by luck. If the police are constantly stopping and frisking people, they are sure to find something in someone’s pocket to charge them for a crime over.

 

"The former senior defense official suggested that Milley was too ambitious to resist flawed ideas from a superior. “Milley doesn’t push back,” he said. “He doesn’t know where his ethical line is.” Others with knowledge of the situation say that Milley drew at least one line, not long before the walk to the church. In a meeting in the Oval Office, Trump expressed a desire to quell the protests by sending forces—not the National Guard but regular military—into American cities. Milley resisted. “They got into a shouting match,” the senior military official told me. Trump finally backed down. (Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, disputed this account, saying, “There was no shouting match, in terms of any directions or any operational decision that was made.”) An official who works on military issues confirmed the confrontation, and told me that Milley said, “I’m not doing that. That’s for law enforcement.” The official described Milley as brash and pushy—traits that could be useful in the current Administration: “We have a bully in the White House, and a bully needs a bully.”
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/trumps-public-relations-army

 

That’s wonderful but I’m talking about murder, rape, aggravated assault, larceny and violent arson. You’re not just gonna find that in someone’s pocket unless they’re a criminal.

 

Not at all. You are making numbers up. You need to cite the Table or page and link to it.

 

We are telling your numbers are not accurate and out of context.

 

Wtf are you talking about. I did link to it. It’s the first thing that comes up on that page. It’s table 43

 

So you assume that the presence of guns makes good people of character lose that character and become criminals?

No psychologist would agree.

There is a root to the problem that is the root of many problems. Present everywhere in the world in various degrees, that being that there will always be people who prey upon others. This is easier to control in a small country. But the larger the country, the more diverse it is in geography and in population, the greater this problem becomes. That is character and the level of comfort and security you live with.
Germany is the size of state in America, such as New Mexico or Montana. But it's population is very dense, easily twice what any state here has. Big differences that make the situations not apples to apples. comparisons.

 

Post a link to what psychologists say on the subject. Otherwise it is bullshit opinion.

And there is little doubt that the MASSIVE number of guns in our society are a big part of why police treat everyone they encounter as if they are armed and dangerous.

When was the last time you saw a cop anywhere without a bullet proof vest on?

 

Never said that guns make good people into criminals.

What I said is that the knowledge of police officers that everyone they interact with could be armed to the teeth makes their job harder. it makes them more fearful and more protective of themselves, making the use of excessive force more likely. it has nothing to do with character.

Note that I am not attacking police officers here, I am defending them. The large abundance of firearms in the population reduces the police officer from a position of strength to a position of caution and protectiveness of their own lives. It's not so hard to grasp.

 

You cannot demonstrate that this is the reason blacks commit, per capita, commit 2-3x more violent crime than whites.
As such, your statement is meaningless.

Also note: the FBI numbers he cited are not based on the number of people charged, tried or convicted.

 

If US gun laws guarantee almost everyone will have one - why do only 1 in 3 Americans own a gun?

 

This is true regardless of the gun laws.

 

Define this "subculture" and prove it exists.
And then - what about it?

 

The authoritarian that you are, I am sure this is true.

 

Ah. More people = higher crime rates.
So much for the need for more gun control laws.