But...but....black on black crime!!!!

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  1. roorooroo

    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think any sane person would answer in the affirmative - Yes. Black people in black communities should not be doing crimes on each other. Obviously, that goes for all communities. Criminals should not be committing crimes on citizens of any race.

    The way you phrased the question makes it seem like you are perfectly fine with black on black crime - like it is inevitable - that black on black crime is simply the norm and should be accepted and tolerated.

    There should be no crime in any communities. Again, you make it sound like crime is a good thing, or at least something that should be expected and accepted as a part of the community.

    There are many people who are simply not going to think that crime is an acceptable part of society as apparently you do. And because crime is unacceptable in my view, I will support the police and I am pleased when criminals are removed from society, and that goes for white criminals, Asian criminals, Hispanic criminals, black criminals, any and all criminals. Too many of us have grown soft on crime and we tolerate it and even glorify it. Enough already.

    Now, if there are bad and antiquated laws that cause too many to become convicted of victimless crimes, then we need to be changing the laws, not crucifying the police.
     
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    Doesn't change a thing.
     
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    You are kidding right?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Humans are terrible at understanding statistics. Equity minded individuals are even worse at it. Are you suggesting that 72% of the population should commit the same number of crimes as some smaller fraction of the population?
     
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    I know arrest doesn't = conviction. As for the #s, I believe I CAN prove it (since it is fact), its just gonna take a little research on my end.
    Until I prove it, we can go with your dreamworld version of the peace loving blacks. I know places where you can find lots of them, maybe you should visit there and enjoy the peaceful treatment.
    I suggest:
    Newark NJ
    Cherry Hill NJ
    Irvington NJ
    Harlem NY

    If you survive, I'd love to hear about how it goes! Anyway, I'll circle back here once I can find the actual statistics. Every reputable site I look at isn't giving an overall tally, instead they are doing it by "black on white murders", "white on black", "white on white", "black on white". I'm looking for the percentage. Anyway, I'll be back. For now we can make believe its all good and peaceful. OK?
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's an analogy...

    I need my car so I can get to work, but my car has a broken crankshaft and a missing hubcap. So I spend all my time visiting all the junkyards trying to find a matching hubcap. Instead, I need to be getting the engine fixed.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sorry but I remain unconvinced that the concept of "black and black crime" is anything but a dishonest diversion in order to ignore police violence and racism against black people.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is also a lot of crime in Russia.

    White on white.
     
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    UH---------------------you might want to check out the murders and shooting in Chicago for the last many weekends this year!!!!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If most people in a certain community are black, logic would state that most crime in that community would be black on black.

    Crazy isn't it???
     
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    Then you also live on a different rail than most of the world.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    most of the world sees through the dishonest and pathetic red herring known as "black on black crime".

    yes, most crime in black communities is done by black people on other black people.

    I also hear water is wet and cotton is soft.

    :p
     
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    You are still ignoring the fact that as a WHOLE, way more crimes in this country are committed by members of a certain race (as in proportionally)
     
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    You might want to check in on the rate that it's happening.

    You know what the leading cause of deaths for young black males is? It's not pretty.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...illiams-no-1-cause-death-african-americans-1/
     
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    It's because we love them so much that we can't even acknowledge that there's a problem they desperately need help with. Does that make any sense?
     
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    Yea and those half million violent assaults on whites aren't happening either.

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    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf

    The numbers on all of this border on the ridiculous. You are better off going with your anecdotes, the data is not your friend.
     
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    Table 14 indicates that over 70% of violent attacks on blacks were by blacks. But the important thing for intellectually vacuous, morally bankrupt BLM is that 11% of the violent perps were white.
     
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    Looks like someone else found it for me, thanks @HockeyDad

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    So what do you have to say about those statistics?
     
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    Little table to clarify the facts here. This is FBI stuff.
    Blacks make up 13% of the US Population- thus, the percentage of crime by blacks should be 13% of the total if people all act with the same motivations.
    The ratio of blacks killed by blacks would be 13%, blacks killed by whites (and others such as the 18% hispanics) 87%. Both numbers would need to be adjusted to account for the levels of other race or ethnic groups listed separately, if you needed that to get a clear answer on whites only This number is black to non-black.

    Note
    Line 1, Total. 13% of arrests should be 1,061,170 for blacks- but it is 2,221,697. Blacks arrested for crime twice as often as their population percentage.
    Line 2, murder: 13% should be 1230- but it's 5025, of four times as high as their population percentage.
    Line 3, rape: 13% should be 2348, but it's 5182, more than double their population percentage.
    Line 4, robbery: 13% should be 9589, but it's 40,024- more than four times their population percentage.

    Conclusion- The police DO have reason to believe that blacks are more likely to be violent criminals than white. Look below to see black on black data in FBI table 3

    upload_2020-6-18_14-40-35.png

    Table 3, race of offender to victim, murders

    Line 1- Whites are responsible for 81% of the murders of white people, 8% of the murders of black people.

    Line 2- Blacks are responsible for 89% of the murders of black people, 15% of the murders of white people.

    Conclusion-
    there were 6369 murders reported in this table. Proportionately, 828 (13%) should have been black, but the actual number is 2870.
    Of that 2870, 2570 were black people killing other black people......

    That is black on black murder.

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    You do know that this is a strawman argument do you not?

    Whom is making the argument that blacks are going out of their way to find black people to assault in mostly non black communities? Nobody. You are arguing against a point that has not been made or even remotely implied.
     
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    Stop feeding the troll guys. He will just continue to dance around the subject and claim any argument or fact presented is not good enough.
     
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    There is NO way he can dance around the last post made by @spiritgide
    It does NOT get any clearer than that!
     
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    and for the record, I don't think those numbers have anything to do with genetics or anything like that. I believe its tied to poverty (poverty that they are in due to failed democratic policies, but that's besides the point), they commit way more crimes and thats a fact.
     
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    Oh, he will, I guarantee it.
     

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