But...but....black on black crime!!!!

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    Maybe you should volunteer at one of those black feet washing events. It might help ease some of that white guilt.
     
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    funny how you cant distinguish between criminals killing black people, and POLICE killing black people.
     
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    yeah, and I hear there is a lot of black-on-black crime in Kenya, Uganda and Ethiopia.

    your point?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    in their minds, POLICE killing black people is the same as criminals killing black people.

    we shouldn't have a higher standard for police.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    police should not be killing unarmed people, especially for racist reasons

    that's the point, which you clearly ignore.
     
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    I agree. I also believe that what we are actually seeing is the attempt to blind the public to the actual failure here, namely, the social policy of democrats for all of these years. It turns out that something like 22 trillion dollars has been spent on "fixing", "cleaning up", "helping" and whatever buzz word democrats used over the years to funnel massive amounts of money to their supporters without ever actually addressing the things they said they would. We see it in democratically run cities throughout the land. School systems that bring in the same, or higher dollars per student who continually fail. The answer? Always, more money, more money... But is it? When you look at the schools in a lot of these cities, what you soon learn is that the administration of the districts and the contracted social services outlays to the employees is the number one cause of cost in those districts. So, more and more of the budget gets allocated to those wealth transfer schemes than actually go to educating students.

    We see this throughout the democratic infra for social services. Where, like in the case of BLMs, less than 15% of the total budget actually goes outside of the overhead to help anyone. This is endemic here. Federal agencies, state agencies, local agencies. They exist to employ the faithful. To suck up the funds from taxes, and yet so little of it ever gets to the folks who actually need. And then, because these orgs never have enough services availability, they are constantly back for more money because they are ineffective at actually producing a viable service for those they are charged to supply. The weight of the overhead is what is failing today. And it is the failure that is now so clear to so many, the narrative from those who live off of this graft has to change.
     
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    Soooooooo . . . any conservative OR any liberal -- no matter his or her skin tone -- who confesses to care about Black on Black crime, is also automatically a racist? That's fascinating.
     
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    This is actually the issue. Ron, you just don't get it. Police kill all kinds of folks, not just black ones. Right? I mean there are actually good statistics here. So why ignore them? And what you really are trying so hard to disjoin is this fact that for this rage that so many feel to be credible, the rage has to be narrowly focused against the police to create the atmosphere for it. And when folks, like so many of us point out that this rage is misdirected and superficial, folks like you are unwilling to give up the horse you want to beat. When BLMs marches because one copy kills one black person, where are they every time a someone from their own community is killed by a stray or errant bullet? Where are they? I can tell you they aren't. Black lives only ever seem to matter when it can be framed as a white on black racial issue. How many of the total police shootings of black men aren't by white police? It seems those cases aren't worth rioting over. So the put a super fine point on it, this rage is entirely selective, and mostly arbitrary. When the black looters killed the black retired police chief, BLMs never stopped. Never even took a knee to reflect on the evil they themselves were perpetrating.

    The point you are trying to invent here is vacuous at bests. It's a straw man of the worst construction.
     
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    did I say racist? no, you did.

    and yes, if someone is trying to derail the conversation about police violence and harrassment of black people, by talking about so-called "black-on-black crime", then they are dishonest.

    how come they never talk about white-on-white crime, or asian-on-asian crime???

    hmmm????
     
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    Pulled directly from the school of ... "shut up...racist".. It's what passes for liberal intellectual discussion these days...
     
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    police kill many more unarmed black people, then unarmed white people.

    they also tend to harrass black people much more.

    but go ahead, ignore the problem.
     
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    funny, i never called anyone a "racist".

    you guys just made that one up.
     
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    Hmm... And suddenly, you know the minds of those police? What does it say about the several cases where black on non white officers killed unarmed white suspects? Are they just as racist? And why don't you ever worry about them? Don't answer, we already know. For you, it's the thrill of getting to paint others with your color brush and demand their villainy. It's just a little too obvious.
     
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    The statistics don't back you up here sport. You're spouting a yarn that is thread bare today.
     
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    LOL... your entire thread was designed to say this. And you continue to every time you post.
     
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    the stats do support my claim.

    go ahead, try to disprove them. You know you cant.
     
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    LOL!!!! now you claim to be a mind-reader.

    you guys are funny. :p
     
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    LOL... Your assertion. Prove your own BS. We can start from there. If you need a place to start, the FBI actually has some really good data. You should trying reading it first...
     
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    Translation.... "Drat... you figured me out"......
     
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    dont put words in my mouth, again. Its violates the rules of this forum
     
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    It almost seems as if the Dem Party was issued a brand new deck of Race Cards for the 2020 presidential election season:

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    Citation needed.
    It's called "Stop and Frisk" and it worked miraculously to lower crime and homicide rates in New York City. It saved many, many black lives.
    I'm not ignoring it. New York city's decision to end Stop and Frisk is a big problem.
     
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    LOL... the very last thing I would ever want to do is put anything in your mouth...
     
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    around 80% of folks who were Stopped & Frisked, were doing nothing wrong and had no weapons.

    that is harrassment.
     
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    Stop and Frisk saved many, many black lives.

    -Black people harassed.

    -Black people dead.

    Pick one.
     
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