But...but....black on black crime!!!!

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  1. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Translation: "Let's get people to look at the red herring and forget about everything else".
     
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    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    It's called deflection. :)
     
  3. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    all people are innocent until proven guilty.

    its one of the hallmarks of our justice system.
     
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    If you lived in NYC throughout the 90s, then you saw proactive and aggressive policing policies transform New York City with your own eyes too.

    Over the 1990s, the NYPD grew 35% bigger, misdemeanor arrests increased 70%, felony arrests increased over 50%, and NYC went from an utter jungle, to one of the safest big cities in the US.

    If you lived in NYC between 1990 and 2000, then you witnessed homicide drop by over 70%, burglaries drop more than 60%, assault go down 40%, and you saw over 70% less cars get stolen.

    If you were there, then you saw it all happen, so you know it's the truth, right?

    The NYPD got big and mean, and they swept the streets clean.

    It was truly an amazing spectacle to behold, wasn't it?

    Remember this NYC?

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    Pepperidge Farms remembers.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That does not excuse resisting arrest.
     
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    quiller Well-Known Member

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    Except for the bodyguards, first thing I thought of was, "Was it something I said?"
     
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    Brandon Tatum deserves a national audience.

     
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    Prosecutors' budgets only go so far. They tend to shell out for only the cases they think they can win, such as slam-dunk homicide cases where the killer confesses or witnesses and video conclusively prove guilt. So many are stupid emotional killings, many if not a majority within the family.
     
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    quiller Well-Known Member

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    "So there"...? No link? New Yawkers are not of this Earth.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry, Mayor Bill is dragging you back to the good old days fast.


    NYC shootings up nearly 200% compared to same time last year
    nypost.com › 2020/05/16 › nyc-shootings-up-nearly-200-compared-t...

    May 16, 2020 - Shootings in the city soared 188 percent this week -- from eight to 23 -- compared to the same period last year, while murders doubled from four .

    New York City crime stats show spike in burglaries and ...

    www.cnn.com › 2020/06/16 › new-york-city-crime
    4 days ago - Murder, burglary and grand larceny auto crimes have spiked in New York ... crimes have declined, according to New York Police Department statistics. ... a 24% increase from the 317 shooting incidents at this point last year.

    NYC shootings surge after NYPD's anti-crime unit disbanded

    nypost.com › 2020/06/19 › nyc-shootings-surge-after-nypds-anti-cri...
    18 hours ago - Shootings surge in NYC amid disbanding of NYPD's plainclothes anti-crime unit. Police at the scene of a shooting in Brownsville, Brooklyn ...
     
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    When Democrats decided to make black Americans their pet project.
     
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    Yes, if suspicious is added. Since by far young black males commit a high disproportionate number of crimes they should get more focus. Would you be satisfied if police stop and frisk was more PC like Homeland Security and stopped and frisked many more grandmas walking out of the grocery store?
     
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    Nope. He wants NOBODY to be stopped and frisked or harassed by the police in any way. He wants the NYPD to be defunded and pulled way back, so NYC will go back to the good old Koch-Dinkins days.

    https://allthatsinteresting.com/1980s-new-york#:~:text=1980s New York experienced the,drug dealer in Times Square.&text=A pair of detectives enjoy,outside of their downtown offices.

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    I simply don't understand the counter for a BLM stance to be black on black crime.

    BLM is an organization that discusses BOTH the imbalance of treatment by police between black and white, but it also addresses the factors that lead to black on black crime.

    Is anyone who is using black on black crime to counter BLM interested or investigating WHY the rates of black on black crime are so high? Or is it just a convenient (but uninformed) counter to BLM?
     
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    True to a limited extent. That gets thrown out the window in high profile cases.
     
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    BLM's focus is neither police treatment imbalance nor black on black crime. Their focus is to degrade and eliminate -- up to and including murder -- the police. Their marching mantras were (are??), "What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!' and the ditty that included the phrase "pigs in a blanket frying like bacon." They were behind, among other things, the police sniper ambush and murder in Dallas, for instance.
     
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    Okay, point conceded. Speaking of, did you see Ford tried to introduce their new Bronco on the anniversary of the OJ Simpson verdict?
     
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    so looks like white on white crime is bad, so why talk about black on white crime

    these are the same concepts

    the reason people get more upset over authority doing crimes against the people is... they are not expected to be the criminals
     
  19. Moriah

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    There was a time in American history when White on Black crime was very prevalent. Lynchings, race riots against Blacks, churches and homes of Black people were bombed out and burned down.
    Did you ever see the pictures of how they sic the police dogs and turn the water hoses on the peaceful Black Civil Rights activists?
    It was American style TERRORISM.
     
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    Arrested? No. COMMITTED.

    "It’s true that around 13 per cent of Americans are black, according to the latest estimates from the US Census Bureau. And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed [emphasis added] 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008." (1)

    To quote Joe Biden, "Get your words straight, Jack."

    1: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime
     
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    You are wasting your time using logic and truth.....".what's a matta fo you!"..
     
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    It's hard to find media publications of whites killed by cops, armed or unarmed. I wonder why that is. But alas, here is the proof you are looking for.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

    You will have to dive into the data, but the statistics here are from 2015 through current day 2020. I'll summarize as I went right to unarmed killings and then you can see how many per race. 2015 through today:
    White: 145
    Black: 123
     
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    If you genuinely cared as much about the well being of the Black community as you did about your virtue signaling you probably wouldn't have gotten as many rhetorical spankings as you've gotten throughout this thread.

    The only way to solve any problem is to face the most relevant facts first.

    It is simply an ugly fact that blacks commit a disproportionate number of the crimes in America, not just the Black community.
    That's the primary fact that self appointed "activists", craven politicians and apologists for mob violence have neither the courage nor the integrity to confront.

    Yes, police violence and racism against the Black community does exist and must be addressed but it is not rectified by destroying our cities, pandering to violent mobs or defunding the police.
     
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    Wishful thinking on your part.

    Ask Julian Assange or Edward Snowden about that.
     
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    Well stated.
     
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