8 Supreme Court cases the justices have yet to rule on

Reportedly, tomorrow is the actual final final final day...

 

I wonder if there is a single so-called conservative on here than can understand the hypocrisy of them supporting any policy that potentially limits birth contraception in the US??

https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2016...-unintended-pregnancy-driving-recent-abortion

 

They don't care...women are nothing but broodstock to them

 

And men are the open wallets for the contraceptives, which are utterly expensive. One way to reduce said costs, is to allow alternative medical devices from abroad, a position that Bernie supports and so do I. That'd help drive the cost down. I'd also like to get women more high paying jobs, so that they can self-sufficiently on their own get the contraceptives.

What I don't want to do, is return to the ACA world wherein men are basically asked to supply these contraceptives when there's no benefit to the individual man but maybe the collective society(and more specifically for women alone.)

 

Not creating unwanted pregnancies, probably leading to more abortions, is to the benefit of both sexes and the "collective society". Or it would be if there was any logic remaining in the world...

 

Oh, they let a few out to become Congresswomen and Senators (mostly after their primary breeding years) ...

But have you noticed how many of those GOP Senators are under severe risk this election??

McSally
Collins
Ernst
Loeffler

Out of 9...

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
They don't care...women are nothing but broodstock to them

NO, they aren't BUT maybe they will HAVE to be now that BC isn't covered under women's health insurance

But women will be expected to pay for it on their own.....(when Viagra is covered)

Oh, gee, that's a nice "like" but women have been hit the hardest economically by the pandemic..

Why don't you petition AMERICAN companies to provide cheap BC ?

I'd be interested to see exactly where men are asked to pay for anything for other people.


BTW, the post of mine you quoted still stands as true.

 

The whole concept of 'unwanted pregnancies' depresses me, as much as the new terms as essential and non-essential workers have. It's basically a new form of classism. But the reality of it is that there are indeed unwanted pregnancies. Would more contraceptives lead to fewer and fewer abortions? Probably, most likely in fact(given your link) but that's the same reason they're so expensive.

You're a guy, I'm a guy. From man to man, would we really REALLY put our money where it doesn't feed us or entertain us or give us some meaningful value? As much of a philosopher as I am, I'm not going to put my money that far into my mouth for the human race.

It'd be like asking the women for the viagra(in fact that was often brought up given the controversial ACA provision) and I often stated outright: I'd much rather pay my own way for viagra if I need it then to ask women to basically subsidize my own health.

I don't think anyone but the most puritan of individuals(and puritanism is dying out as a whole) believes in the whole 'carry to term' thing. The biggest issue with contraceptives is the demand on we men and our pocketbooks. To be clear: I can see myself buying it for my wife, spouse, girlfriend. But all of the females? Nah, ain't that generous lol.

 

But you happily pay for everyone else's Viagra and heart surgery and liver transplant and cancer treatments and broken legs and diseases.....that's what insurance is all about...

 

A business like Trumps (or any other business for that matter) relies on its name as much as anything else. Scandals can hurt that business. Doesn't matter what the scandal is. Be it a business scandal, or a private scandal. So yes, paying hush money can be considered a business expense as it is being paid for business reasons. Why do you think when multiple scandals happens to a business they sometimes change their name? It's because the business name is now associated with negativity. A business cannot thrive on negativity directed at them. Hell, its the reason that NDA's exist.

 

Gotcha so a business owner can write off things like the owners Legal fees for dui arrest? Or anything that might personally damage the business owner?

 

I was working on a longer answer to that, but yours is better...

Since I consider overpopulation one of the largest problems on this planet, ANYTHING that safely, legally, morally (compared to the alternative) and relatively cheaply that prevents more mouths to feed works for me.

But I did get him to admit effective birth control probably prevents abortions, which should be the place to start this conversation...

 

Technically speaking yes, that's the point of the insurance pool. However, as you surely know your insurance bill can be higher or lower, depending on a variety of factors among them being out-of-pocket expenditures. And that's what viagra or BC is, they're generally out of pocket expenditures.

What I'd love to do is create smaller and smaller pools to divide the risk among those(rather than one big ass pool). So the costs will be functionally smaller with the more pockets of customers there are. Insurers will get more over the long run, while we customers will benefit in cheaper prices for our insurance.

I don't want you covering my ass, and I don't want to cover your ass either. No offense meant, I just think it's fair to have a "pay your own way" system.

 

I agree with every word in that post, but none of it is really to the point of Trump vs Vance because you left out the key word...

 

Tax fraud is a federal crime. It doesn't matter WHO you pay the tax to.

JFC

 

I'm not even mildly interested in reading the biased crap Guttmacher spews.

 

Anything that goes against Trump will be brought forward as an APPEAL due to HEAD BUMP. I am not kidding... they will pretend like that may be an issue with the outcome.
Trump for years said he didnt mind showing his taxes, then once in stated "NO ONE CARES TO SEE THEM" - everything with that guy is a lie, a twist, propaganda and never backs up the truth or shows Proof of his alternative facts.

It is simple, show the taxes if there is nothing to hide. It says a lot when you cant show them... lots of Russia Business involved.

 

All due respect AN, but thats functionally impossible. The idea of Insurance Pools is to lower costs, without them, you are functionally paying your own way, and at the higher costs. But the secondary function of the pools it to allow the insurance companies bargaining power with the respective providers to get significantly lower prices. If you "pay your own way" one event will literally bankrupt even the wealthy among us.

Insurance companies main purpose is to lower costs for the insured, but they do that thru the fact that they have large pools of customers as bargaining power

 

that’s incorrect. the fed has no jurisdiction over state taxes

 

Yes, amazing how a democracy changes to a Fascist Monarchy within 3 years....
Wait until about March 2021 and the Republicans will come out of the wood work with Spending cuts, calling everything Biden does which will be a lot like what Trump has allowed (lower rates, and Printing) irresponsible... From the house to McConnell they will be screaming about Spending.
If for the wall, military, and friends of the party, trump, banksters, it is all ok. Once they start to help the people it will be a mad house.
I can tell ya... better have lots of GOLD and SILVER as the dollar is in BIG BIG trouble

 

FFS, IF DJT goes to a bank and uses fraudulent documents, or provides fraudulent document to the bank to do THEIR assesment, That is fraud. Banks dont spend money to assess property values, they get that from anassesor, but when it comes to business they go over the books PROVIDED BY THE BUSINESS. THATS where he lied.

 

Thread winner there....



Although I'm pretty sure the SCOTUS is the end of line, appeal wise...

Tomorrow is the big day... be here at 10am ET...

 

We were talking about hush money. You know, NDA's? Not legal things like DUI's. Legal things are generally a public matter. Paying someone hush money because you screwed them has nothing to do with legal things. If you payed someone hush money in order to keep a dui secret then that someone would be either in the courts or a LEO. That is called a bribe and as such would be illegal. However you could pay a "journalist" money to keep that DUI from going through their news paper/media channel. That is legal.

 

And what is that "key word"?

 

FFS...you really can’t believe this? obviously you have never gotten a loan or dealt with a bank