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Legal Docs: St. Louis Prosecutor Tampered With Evidence In McCloskey Gun Case

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by ModCon, Jul 23, 2020.

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  1. glitch

    glitch Well-Known Member

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    glitch, Jul 24, 2020
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Easy to say from the safety and comfort of an armchair. If all you have is a non working gun, you play the hand you have. She needs a working firearm and some training. The rioters/trespassers need to be shown their boundaries. In the end, they didn't harm them or their dog.
     
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  3. glitch

    glitch Well-Known Member

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    I would imagine it would keep the rabble away. Would you approach her with her waving that gun around like that? Seems like it served its intended purpose.
     
    glitch, Jul 24, 2020
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  4. mudman

    mudman Well-Known Member

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    There's no way to know what kind of damage they saved themselves from and THAT....IS.....THE....POINT!!!! Do you get it?

    Al we know is that mob didn't do a damn thing to those people and given what's gone on and how many people have been attacked for no reason, it's reasonable to say the guns served their purpose.
     
    mudman, Jul 24, 2020
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    Pants Well-Known Member

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    But there were other houses in that neighborhood. All I saw was people on the streets and sidewalks. Were other houses in that community damaged?
     
    Pants, Jul 24, 2020
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    Only she pointed the gun and it was inoperable. And according to castle doctrine in that state they were completely within their rights. An angry violent mob already broke into private property since they destroyed the gate. The difference between a mob on the street and a mob breaking into your house is a few seconds. With them yelling threats it’s just 1 thrown rock. It’s not like there isn’t precedent. Violent mobs just like that one, are destroying property all over the country.
     
    Pred, Jul 24, 2020
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  7. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Excellent point.

    You beat me to it.
     
    Andrew Jackson, Jul 24, 2020
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    Correct, if they didn't point the weapons, this would be a non issue.
     
    mdrobster, Jul 24, 2020
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  9. 61falcon

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    These two were hated by their neighbors!!!
     
    61falcon, Jul 24, 2020
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  10. glitch

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    Well then that proves it, hang 'em high.
     
    glitch, Jul 24, 2020
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  11. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, they are. They totally embarrassed themselves.

    That prosecutor is embarrassing all The People of St. Louis by tampering with evidence. At least the McCloskies can legitimately claim moronic ignorance. Whats the prosecutors excuse?
     
    modernpaladin, Jul 24, 2020
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  12. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, don't warn them, let them throw the first rock, then fire away.

    Sound strategy.

    I also would have preferred the home owner take it a step further and act completely helpless until the action began. Then, surprise!
     
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  13. fullmetaljack

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    The Federalist ?
    LMAO

    Fake news.

    BTW, for the purpose of prosecuting this wing-nut it doesn't matter whether the weapon worked or not. I'd love for the defense to try and raise that issue at trial.
     
    fullmetaljack, Jul 24, 2020
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    Actually it does. The law they are trying to prosecute them on specifically says the weapon must be functional. The handgun was not functional and it was intentional. The handgun was used as a prop in a court case and the spring for the firing pin was intentionally installed incorrectly.
     
    Nunya D., Jul 24, 2020
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    Interesting. I suppose the "functional" part was created to address certain specific situations. Hypothetically, if she pointed the weapon at someone and they defended themselves with deadly force, they would have a great case for self-defense.
     
    fullmetaljack, Jul 24, 2020
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  16. RP12

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    You might want to make yourself familiar with Missouri law.... As you are clearly wrong.
     
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  17. RP12

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    You might also want to look up Castle Doctrine as far as Missouri is concerned... Being even slightly educated on a topic will keep you from looking foolish from the get go..

    You are welcome.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Castle doctrine does not allow you to act preemptively.
    It also does not allow you to brandish at people on a sidewalk, street or yard.
     
    cd8ed, Jul 24, 2020
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They were walking past their home. You cannot shoot someone for walking towards your home.
     
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  20. RP12

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    In Missouri if you think you are threatened on your own property that is all it takes...

    They broke into a private community... You might want to look up brandishing as well as you are wrong.
     
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  21. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh so now we are adding psychic powers to determine what people are doing in determining who you can shoot at...

    cult45
     
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  22. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have to meet force with an equal level of force, pointing a gun at someone because they are on your sidewalk protesting does not equal deadly force.

    You should not pull a weapon unless you intend to use it, my firearms instructor had a few choice words to describe cowards that pull out weapons to threaten others.
     
    cd8ed, Jul 24, 2020
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  23. RP12

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    No.

    You...

    Dont..

    Read...

    the

    LAw
     
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  24. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The moment they entered their home the homeowners had the eight to use deadly force.
    Standing outside, brandishing weapons with one being inoperable coupled with horrible muzzle discipline ...

    If I pull my weapon on you I am going to fire, it isn’t a prop.

    I am not surprised the normal posters are defending this.
     
    cd8ed, Jul 24, 2020
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  25. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please post the law that says you can pull a weapon on someone who is unarmed standing on the sidewalk. I’ll wait.
     
    cd8ed, Jul 24, 2020
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