Trump admits underfunding USPS to stop or reduce MAIL IN VOTING.

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's as anti-american as anti-american can be. Democracy is a core American value, and Trump is countering it with all deliberate force and speed.

    IN my view, it is an impeachable act, but fat chance of that with an invertebrate republican senate.
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    What does it matter if he said it? He wants to do it, and the reason is obvious.
     
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    My understanding is that it is illegal for private companies to deliver mail in cities in the US as this is the USPS’ largest source of revenue and the USPS says this is necessary to subsidize the delivery of mail in rural areas.

    Does anyone know if this is true or if it is still necessary in the internet age?
     
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    He admitted to waiting for a plan by the states to handle the election. A plan that looks like absentee ballots sent to people who respond to a request for a ballot will be looked on favorably. A plan that looks like mass mailing ballots that can be forged by anyone, duplicated by Russia and China, without controls will be looked upon as an attempt to make a mockery of the election and won't be funded.
     
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    But you said Trump admitted it. That’s a large charge. Why don’t you want to provide citation? And now you say it doesn’t matter cause it’s obvious he wants to do it. God help you if you are ever on the receiving end of a slander or libel trial.
     
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    Makes voting easier.
     
  7. cirdellin

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    Is easy now the standard for rectitude?
    I’m a student of William James who argued the exact opposite.
     
  8. Cybred

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    To vote you bet.
     
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    And if mail in voting favored the US Republicans, or especially that rascal Trump, would you be as supportive of it?
     
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    Now why would Trump do this?
     
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    And rumor has it that all the drop boxes for individuals to personally deliver their own ballot, will be sorted out by a Marxist Socialist, discarding any racist, sexist, homophobic, white nationalist, or persons of privilege in general, as defined by the Chief Marxist Justice of the WHO court.
     
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  12. Cybred

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    Yep.
     
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    Every state should make Mail In Ballots available. If it's good enough for Dirty Donald, Kellyanne Conway and his Press Secretary it's good enough for all Americans!!
     
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    There is a difference between absentee and mail in ballots.
     
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    Democrats are attempting both voter suppression and voter fraud; it's kinda their thing.
     
  16. 61falcon

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    Federal Judge in Pa. has just ordered the Trump campaign and RNC to supply the court PROOF of outrageous Mail In ballot voter fraud they claim took place during the recently completed Pa. primary..He has given them until Friday 8-14-2020 to supply the proof. The Judge J. Nicholas Ranjan is a Trump appointee.
     
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    If the reason is obvious, there is no reason to misquote.
     
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    He has told them to either supply proof by tomorrow or admit they have no proof.
     
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    This is worse than I thought.

    They aren't just shutting down sorting machines. They are tearing them apart and hauling them to the junkyard. If we want to have a postal service, we are going to have to replace those, at enormous cost.

    They are also junking mailboxes, lots of them.

    And killing OT pay for their workers.

    Now, delay doesn't matter. If you care about having fair elections, you would wait. Trump will not do that. He will likely shut down the process (or try, this will definitely wind up in court). But he may also declare the election invalid and demand a do over. The courts will tell him to take a hike over ending the count, so I think he will declare the election invalid, and try to tough it out.
     
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  20. Cybred

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    You misspelled republicans.
     
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    AE4F8D9E-E810-42E6-84E8-30D9404835DE.jpeg C0785E18-A20F-4764-9C12-691194E56DFE.jpeg 74CFFBFB-39DE-4189-933C-1949F2C983D6.jpeg I guess Americans could also vote by semaphore if the voter wishes and it is more convenient for them.

    There’s no reason not to. :)
     
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  22. cirdellin

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    I’ve voted in a lot of districts in the US and I’ve never spent more than 15 or 20 minutes in a queue.
    Although when in African American districts I had to sing Kwanzaa songs using Ebonics before I was allowed to enter the booth and I didn’t think that was right. :)
     
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    Well, you did.

    But yes - the Democrats are ruthless vote suppressors and fraud mavens.
     
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    Still unable to present your research to demonstrate the validity of your arguments I see! And my challenge to you continues to go unanswered! :roflol:
     
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    To reduce the number of Democrat voters

    Democrat voters believe in science, and thus are frightened of dying from COVID. Republicans believe in Trump over everything and since he has said COVID is a hoax they are less afraid. Thus 50% of Dems say they will use mail-in voting whereas only 20% of Republicans say they will. Trump is desperate to stop mail-in voting and has done several things to attack it.
     

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