The Democratic Convention Is Giving an Unusual Bump to Trump and the GOP

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  1. doombug

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    Sloppy Joe Biden is nothing but a meat head!

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    Yeah but according to the article Trumps 3 point bump was the result of the "historic nomination of the first woman of color to the presidential ticket for a major party". As if the Americans comprised of that 3 point bump were unaware that Harris was Bidens VP pick prior to the convention.

    Trump's approval rating improving is always a good thing regardless of why, but this article feels like a huge stretch to try to tie this to the DNC convention. Even Americans who simply casually check the news in the morning and don't follow politics would have known that Harris was Bidens VP pick well before a couple days ago. I doubt THAT many Americans learned about her being the VP pick strictly from watching the convention and then decided to swap over to supporting Trump...
     
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    Well, these folks are at an age where distance vision isn't at its peak. Having Crooked Hillary as Biden's character reference, who thought that was a good idea?

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    Then it would be your job to describe what conclusion is being improperly assumed, and I don't see where you have.
    I don't see where you have supported that claim, or why that would cast doubt on Rasmussen's poll. The rational question is how well does he predict recent presidential results, and frankly, he's clearly top tier.

    RCP tested the polls they use in their average after the 2016 election:

    With the votes Hillary ran up in CA who changed their election system so that the Senate race was between two Democrats, Hillary was +2 nationally, though, on balance, she lost the other 49 states, but did great in CA

    IBD/TIPP projected Trump +2
    Rasmussen Reports Clinton +2
    Bloomberg Clinton +3
    Reuters/Ipsos Clinton +3
    Economist/YouGov Clinton +4
    ABC/WaPo Clinton +4
    Fox News Clinton +4
    Gravis Clinton +4
    NBC News/WSJ Clinton +4
    CBS News Clinton +4
    Monmouth Clinton +6
    We just did, he's a top tier pollster.
    Seriously, after all your build up with the "rational mind" and "begging the question" this isn't plainly obvious? She's a crooked prosecutor descended from slaveholders who was so unattractive as a candidate that she blew through $25M and dropped out before the first contest of the primary season with support below Tulsi.
    Your slander aside, even Democrats didn't support Crooked Prosecutor Harris, that's why she dropped out a month before Iowa after blowing through $25M, she dropped out before securing a SINGLE delegate, you should be unsurprised that she is not helping Biden win ECV. And Biden, who is increasingly showing signs of dementia, was supposed to be saved by his brilliant VP pick, well, there is no evidence she is helping at all, well, she appears to be helping Trump.
    That's looks like fake news, you have presented no evidence that Rasmussen "gives more weight" to Trump supporters, in fact, it's a rather nonsensical claim. You think he polls, and then pulls non Trump voters out of the sample before publishing it, that would be fraud, and there is no evidence to back up this ludicrous charge.
    A convention bounce for your opponent is "expected"? Wrong. A convention bounce is "expected" for the nominee holding the convention!

    Bill Clinton had a 30 point bounce in 1992.
    Then-President George H.W. Bush's convention bounce was weak and he went on to lose.
    Bob Dole got a big bounce after the Republican convention, but quickly fizzled.
    Al Gore's 2000 bounce endured for weeks. Prior to the Democratic convention, Gore was behind Texas Gov. George W. Bush by as many as 16 points, but was in a statistical tie with the Republican the weekend after his acceptance speech.
    Democratic candidate John Kerry did not get a convention bounce in 2004 and went on to lose.
    In 2012 Obama opened up a three- or four-point lead during the Democratic convention the week after.
    Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton both got bounces in 2016.

    Only John "Swiftboat" Kerry failed to get a bounce, and then he lost. So, it's rational to conclude that only those that expect Biden to lose also expected his bounce during his convention bounce to be exceeded by Trump's bounce, during Biden's convention!
     
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    Clinton took Minnesota. We can use those 10 electoral votes.

    Trump and Biden tied in Minnesota: poll
    "The latest survey from the Trafalgar Group finds Biden at 46.9 percent and Trump at 46.5 percent. Libertarian Party candidate Jo Jorgensen gets 3.7 percent support, while 1.7 percent are undecided and 1.2 percent said they’d support someone else."

    "An Emerson College survey, the only other poll of Minnesota released this month, found Biden with a 3-point advantage over Trump, which was also within the survey’s margin of error."

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/512976-trump-and-biden-tied-in-minnesota-poll


    Thanks Antifa, BLM and Democratic party. We couldn't have done it without ya.

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    It ain't being tan that's her problem dude, did you watch that horrific and scary speech she gave? The woman us scary as hell.
     
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    I did. What scared you so badly? Because it seemed pretty non scary to me.
     
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    Trump could just replay the video of the DP convention to get another approval bump. ;-)
    Has any other candidate in history ever surged during the opposition party's national convention?
     
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    JB looks better with a bun.
     
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    You made my point for me. Convention bounces are a thing of the past. Look how you go from a 30 point bounce to what, three or maybe four?

    Rasmussen is a know right leaning pollster. And the pills on Hillary Clinton were accurate in most states, in fact Trump’s win was within the margin of error.

    But guess what...

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/23/politics/biden-poll-bounce-post-election/index.html

    Looks like Rasmussen polled and you all posted too soon. A favorability rating is bouncing for Biden. So I’m both wrong and right. In the best possible way!
     
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    I think he should take your advice and try! But I bet it’s keynote speaker Tiffany Trump that does the trick...
     
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    That would also probably work for Trump. ;-)
     
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    If one is bent left as it were, it won't scare you cause the pay backs she invisions won't affect you at least not immediately.
     
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    Democrats have painted themselves into a corner.

    They've undermined education to the point where people (including posters here) aren't even familiar with the founding documents.
    Then, because people are stupid, they think socialism works as a complete economic system. (more free stuff)
    So, they keep having to move more and more left toward socialism, kicking all the moderates out of the party.

    All of the white Democrats need to resign in solidarity with their new values.
     
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    What pay backs are you referring to? And how much am I getting?
     
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    I thought he preferred Ivanka...
     
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    Very true.
     
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    Nope. This post had zero basis in reality. The moderates are the only ones getting nominated to national elections. They are the only ones winning in moderate districts around the country. Socialism isn’t part of the Democratic Party’s main platform, just ask the actual US socialist party.
     
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    What ever you can carry off without being shot, given the knowledge that those who who attempt to defend themselves from your larceny will be the prosecuted.
     
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    Four days of right wing bliss.
    An outlier poll and Rasmunssin. :)
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    Well, other than she lost rather than won by a landslide. So, tell me, why are polls important during the election run up?
    https://townhall.com/columnists/wayneallynroot/2020/08/23/signs-of-a-coming-trump-victory-n2574809
    But, you guys are doing just grand. Keep doing what you are doing!
     
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    That depends on who the Democrats are giving a speech to, lol.
     
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    GOP to declare War on Left-wing insanity during their convention, offering a clear choice to the nut-buggery of Pelosi, Biden, Harris, Schiff, Schumer, Fat Jerry, Antifa, BLM, Riots, Looting and Assault.

    Democrats: race quotas, riots, cancellations, fake hate.

    GOP: Loudly and utterly reject political correctness and identity politics. Loudly and whole-heartedly embrace freedom of thought and equality under the law instead.

    President Trump declared in front of Mount Rushmore on July 4, the GOP purpose and message: Preserving the American Way of Life.

    Left/Democrat Party: sanctifying the riots: a revolutionary insurrection against the American Way of Life.

    GOP: We support the fundamental rights of EVERYONE, not least of which are the shopkeepers, terrified families, and the ever more numerous victims of violence—freedom-loving Americans of every race and creed.

    GOP DECLARES WITHOUT APOLOGY: “America is not Racist!” We All Know This! Americans are a decent people in a beautiful land, and we can and will—unless impeded by identity politics derangement—go on to grow increasingly good and beautiful.

    THE GOP PROUDLY SUPPORTS law enforcement at every level. The police, our border patrol agents, the DEA, Homeland Security.

    Too many on the Left want the police disbanded or put in the hospital by thugs who smash America while too many Democrats smugly justify the violence. The police don’t need defunding, they don’t even need chastisement. They need a parade—and our full-throated support.

    We all know that this country has brought more freedom and more prosperity to more people than any country in the history of mankind. We are still the world’s last and best hope, were America to turn back from the securing of individual rights, the world would start turning back to tyranny.

    Trump has been a blast of fresh air after years of Republican loserdom. This election is about Preserving the American Way of Life, rebuilding our failed Democrat Cities, making out streets safe, once again, for ALL of the American People.
     
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