You went off topic in post 17 I'll stick to the topic of the false statement in your OP... YOU CLAIMED : "" But then I've also heard them say women are like animals and can't control themselves."" NO WHERE did anyone say that....it's your own twisted "misinterpretation". You have NEVER shown proof anyone said that....
Your semantic arguments won't work here. What I initially claimed they said and what I later quoted is pretty much equivalent. Would you care to tell why you think they are not equivalent?
There is a key distinction between saying humans are animals, which is simply true and talking about treating humans like animals, which is a simile actually referring to a subset of animals (generally farm animals and pets). It is undeniably true that humans are animals and we have animal instincts. They are generally recognised as one of the reasons a simple abstinence policy alone would never prevent all (or even many) unwanted pregnancies, even if everyone intended to try to follow it (which wouldn't happen either). It is also undeniably true that there has long been a moral principle that treats human animals differently to all other animals and that would apply in abortion policies in the same way it applies to everything else. There is zero inconsistency between those two truths (though either can be debated independently) and your attempt to spin up the idea that there is an inconsistency is either ridiculously foolish or grossly dishonest.
NO, they are not equivalent.... they made statements of fact about humans and you exaggerated/distorted/twisted it to mean WOMEN ONLY act like animals (meaning out of control) And what TF that has to do with abortion is anyone's guess.... Would you care to tell why you have to ignore so many, many posts ?? Are they too INCONVENIENT ? LOL!!! """""rights aren't based on what YOU think is "responsible" or "irresponsible". Who do you think should control other people's reproduction? The Gestapo? Church ladies? The government (make it bigger) ? If irresponsible people shouldn't have control of their reproduction does that mean they should be forced to HAVE AN ABORTION ??""""
~ Humans are indeed animals that walk upright and have a large cerebral cortex. Some women insist a man's brain lobe is between his legs.
Why can't you just admit that you have NO proof of anyone saying what you claim: "" I've also heard them say women are like animals and can't control themselves.""
Compared humans to animals? Humans are animals. Etymology The word "animal" comes from the Latin animalis, meaning having breath, having soul or living being.[1] The biological definition includes all members of the kingdom Animalia.[2] In colloquial usage, as a consequence of anthropocentrism, the term animal is sometimes used nonscientifically to refer only to non-human animals.[3][4][5][6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal
I agree that abstinance is an unreasonable expectation. But its not because women are animals. Its because humans have animal instincts. Theres plenty of humans capable of harnassing/controlling their instincts, and theres plenty that are not, of both sexes. However, this isn't an argument for or against abortion, nor is it an argument against abstinance in general. Its merely an argument against offering abstinance as the only alternative. Such an offer fails to take in to account the power of human instinct and sexual drive. But since abstinance is not the only alternative to abortion, the argument is moot. In the context of pro- and anti- abortion, abstinance, condoms, birth control, adoption and child rearing are all equally valid alternatives, and yet all equally miss the point- that abortion as a political issue is merely one of body autonomy and sovereignty over ones own health. All other issues are moral and thus subjective issues and not relevent to a legal discussion so long as we maintain that laws are to be made objectively.
This seems like a totally trolling post to me. A simple google and a bit of reasoning could probably easily answer your question.
Humans are classified as animals under their taxonomy. Specifically primates under the kingdom animilia. I have never seen anyone say “women are animals and cannot control themselves”. I believe that to be an outright fabrication but I will take you at your word. That said, humans have the cognitive ability of choice. They can choose to carry their child to term or they can choose to abandon it. Nothing you have posted is a good enough reason to allow the state to force a woman to act as an unwilling incubator under pretense of legal penalty. If you don’t want to have an abortion do not have one, you have no right to tell another what they can or cannot do with their own body.
So you believe that someone that isn’t responsible enough to control themselves should be forced to bring a child into this world and then care for it but should be forced to do so by the state? You are not being serious, are you?
He also says, ""are not deserving of the right to necessarily control all aspects of their reproduction?"" meaning they could be forced to have abortions , too !
Yes, and then sterilized. Or maybe only one freebie abortion allowed and then she has to have her tubes tied. I don't see how you can argue she's irresponsible to a level enough that there needs to be an abortion, but at the same time she should be allowed to go on having other pregnancies. If she's that messed up of a person that she shouldn't bring a baby into the world, then fine.
So forced sterilization... Very Hitleresque... What other bodily functions do you believe should be left to the state? This is moving to what the actual issue is — control.
So the state can either force her to have a child or force her to potentially never be able to have children again. Fascinating
She gets to decide whether the rest of society treats her like an animal. If she is human, then she can decide whether to engage in the type of activity that can lead to pregnancy.
WHY? There's nothing wrong with getting an abortion.....haven't ya heard, they're legal. It's very Hitleresque to take away people's right to bodily autonomy.... Have ya got proof of your claim yet ??? YOU"" But then I've also heard them say women are like animals and can't control themselves."" NO proof so far!!!
Right to "bodily autonomy" implies one had the choice over one's bodily autonomy. Since women don't get pregnant out of nowhere... She made a choice, a choice that could bring new life into the world. I'm not fundamentally anti-choice; I just don't believe in un-choices, in this situation.
