The left will eventually take over America

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Josephwalker, Sep 4, 2020.

  1. Arkanis

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    Socialism is government intervention in the economy.

    Start by knowing the definition of the words you use, maybe you will have constructive conversations on this forum.
     
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  2. James California

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    ~ Take your own advice .
     
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    Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it

    Australia has always been waaaay more socialist than America - at one time the government owned the largest bank, the telecommunications a major regional airline etc etc etc

    Still has shares in some of those things as a means of controlling how these companies work and therefor having some control over the market
     
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    Why at one time and not now? Maybe because state ownership didn't work out so well?
    Beyond that though was don't want the richest most powerful country in tne world to fade away and end up just another Australia so you kind of make my point for me.
     
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    Well ... the Second coming of Christ won't be far behind that event.
     
  6. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :blushes: ~ Nancy Pelosi said we already had Armageddon ! :floating:
     
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    Successive governments got greedy and wanted fast money for pet projects :roll: Again don’t knock it until you tried it :p
     
  8. Josephwalker

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    Everywhere it's tried it fails including Australia.
     
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    I've said this many times before, but I think many adults were completely out of touch with how much those in the younger generation were struggling in the wake of the Recession.
    Older adults who already had a foot on the career ladder and in many cases already owned their own home so have no idea what it is like for a young person to try to go out there these days with the outrageously high rent levels that exist now in many parts of the country.

    Just saying, do not be surprised if many in the younger generation will start seeing socialism as a good idea.
     
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    SOCIALISM: Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffee pot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water quality standards.
    With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.
    All but $10 of his medications is paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.
    He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry. In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. The bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and in what amount. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.
    He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. He saves considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
    Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer meets these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.
    If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker's compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune. It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC and FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
    Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten mortgage and his below-market student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.
    Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. The roadway is safe and well-marked because the engineer who designed it learned her craft at a government subsidized school.
    He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house, financed by the Farmer's Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
    He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so that Joe wouldn't need to.
    Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit that Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees:"We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
     
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    ~ Many in the younger generation have been dumbed down by media and "education". Fortunately it seems some have realized this.
     
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    :smile:´ ~ We know you ain't talkin' about Sleepy Joe !
     
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    Which of the Progressive policies bothers you the most? Clean drinking water? Inspected food? Universal healthcare? Free college? Decriminalized marijuana? Smaller budget for the military industrial complex and no wars? A cleaner environment? We can start with those but there's lots more.
     
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    As long as they erase any and all history of tRump
    your grandchildren will be just fine.
     
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    ~ Progressives are dreamers - they are not realistic in their ideals for utopia. They ignore facts, logic and common sense.
    Sometimes they can be amusing - in a sad way .
     
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    So the law and order President can't do anything?

    Why reelect such incompetence.
     
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    Exactly. Dinosaurs die off. I like the Old Man Syndrome term.
    It's not the same as when I was growing up. Everything was great when I was growing up.
    And now it's different. The world is coming to an end.
     
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    The world continuously progresses. Else we'd still be living in cages.

    I always say, tomorrows liberals are todays conservatives.

    At one time conservatives didn't want women to vote. Blacks to marry whites. Gays to get married.
    The world is always progressing to liberal.
     
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    Nah. Let Leftists keep talking BS. Just like Biden proclaiming today how bad the economy is and unemployment. Claiming violence and rioting is Trumps fault yet it’s ALL Democrats doing the looting and the rioting. Yes. Stupid people will think it’s Trumps fault. Semi intelligent and up understand Jesus could be President right now and we’d be in the exact same position. Maybe a little better except for Democrats doing their best to keep the economy stagnant in major cities. It’s not like the MSM will call any of them out. NYT is still ignoring how many died due to Cuomo's incompetence with the nursing homes. And since Trump apparently personally runs these cities that’s all his fault too, and not all the mayors. Not sure what their jobs have been besides cheering on all the violence and destruction.
     
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    Blacks marrying whites. In the 1950s, black could not even talk to a whitel
     
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    What choice do they have??
    Y'all keep putting knuckle heads like tRump in charge...there isn't going to be any America at all.
    Have you ever seen this country in worse shape in your lifetime?
    And the left has to bail you out every time. First you put in George W...
    then you put in the tRump... can only imagine who you've got planned for the next one...does the name start with S and end with N by any chance?
     
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    Its not the policies, its the aftermath.

    Highest crime rates in the country
    Highest homeless populations living in the streets and defecating on the sidewalks
    Highest tax rates
    Highest housing cost
    Diminishing middle class
    Highest gas prices
    Highest murder rates
    Bankrupt local governments
    Sanctuary cities hosting illegal immigrants
     
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    Damn conservative USSC. Not following the constution.

    Anyways, according to the Old Man Syndrome, your grandfather was the last generation to live under the US Constitution. At least he thought that at the time.
     
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    to bad tRUMP thought it was a hoax and ignored it.
     
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    Exactly. I'll be honest, having tried both, you can't make money quite as quickly in Australia as the US. But when **** hits the fan you have so much more protection. we have the whole right- left seesaw, but it feels just more balanced and less extreme. Further, there is just that less feeling of areas of completed impoverishment in Australia. Pockets, but not entire suburbs, towns and areas like the US.

    I do love America though, just that sense of optimism and can do is difficult to match anywhere else. NOT a good country to be on minimum wage in though.
     
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