WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    There is NOTHING in the video that supports your fallacious allegation above.
     
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    You just EXPOSED the FALLACY in your own baseless allegation!

    You are fallaciously ASSUMING that he still had the gun.

    The gun was ON THE GROUND when the KILLER cop MURDERED the victim.

    When the shots were fired you can see BOTH HANDS in the air and there is NO GUN in either of them.
     
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    Why would he need x-ray vision to see the gun drop if it did in fact drop? You're not denying that the cop would have seen the gun behind the guy's back are you?
     
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    That's exactly what the video shows.
     
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    No you can't, from the cover officers viewpoint he is bringing the gun around from behind his back to bear on the contact officer when he fires.
     
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    Yes and bring it around his back towards the contact officer. You must only watch the cover officers viewpoint, he was the one who fired.
     
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    It shows NOTHING of the sort because the VICTIM was putting the gun DOWN!
     
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    Then WHY wasn't the gun in the victim's HAND when he was SHOT in the video?

    There was NO GUN visible in the hand of the victim when the KILLER cop MURDERED him.

    BOTH empty HANDS are CLEARLY visible in the video.
     
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    It does NOT matter what FACTS and Rational Argument you bring before the Willfully Ignorant
    They will consistently REFUSE to even perceive of anything that counters their carved in stone
    ........................................................................................................................................................................................... Preconceptions

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    At some point argument with them becomes a waste of time. Far better just
    to EXPOSE the disease. Watch them try to Ignore or Justify this Atrocity
    .............................................................................................................................. with their Squirming
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    A 13 Year Old (unarmed) CHILD with Asperger Syndrome - is Gunned Down
    He tried to run away from the PIGs who were there to HELP him


    ‘He’s a Small Child’:
    Police Show Up & Fill a 13-year-old Autistic Boy with Bullet Holes

    ............................................................................................ After His Mother Called 911 for Help
    The mother specifically told them he was unarmed - PIGs say they thought he might be armed - no weapon found
    ............................................................................ I recon their dummy weapons must have been all used up for this week

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    [​IMG]
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati..._main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=reddit.com

    Cops Shoot Autistic Boy During Mental Health Call


    The main problem is not with overly Militarized Police trained to see themselves as Warriors
    The main problem - here has to do with the Psychopathy of Cowardly
    .................................................................................................. Bully Ass, Goon Thuggery

    & Sheep wonder why People are taking to the streets in a Rage ! - What is the matter with you people ?
    .
     
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    I am a former LEO and I have been in life-or-death situations. You are correct in saying that it is a very hard job to do and MOST people cannot understand how things happen so quickly. However, I do and I believe the shooting officer responded in error. I didn't see the suspect do anything except lower himself and his weapon to the ground. I am NOT saying the officer acted with malice, but I believe he made an error in judgment.

    I understand why LEOs protect one another (even when they know the officer was wrong) but it's that kind of blind loyalty that leads many rogue cops (and, I'm not suggesting these cops were) to feel "untouchable" that nobody will question anything even with a trail of bodies in their wake.

    Is that a society you want to live in?
    Where you want your family to live?
    Where people are terrified of the very people that are supposed to serve and protect (and not just one another)?

    I certainly don't.
     
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    So if the officer could see the gun behind the guy's back, wouldn't he have been able to see him DROP it if he did in fact drop it?
     
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    If so, it's probably because 0.6 seconds earlier, it wasn't so.

    Or do you disagree on the EXACT amount of time you require to judge this officer's life or death decision making skills?
     
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    The VICTIM was COMPLYING with the police when he was MURDERED without cause.

    The KILLER cop PANICKED instead of following his training.
     
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    No it doesn't, show me where the cover officer can see him put it down?
     
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    No they're not, the heroic cover officer can only see him put his hand around to point the gun at the contact officer.
     
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    1. Which I'm sure will also turn out to be a justified shoot.
    2. Only ungrateful hypocrite slugs call police pig.....until they need their help then it's "Police! Police! Come save me!" isn't it?
     
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    You must ONLY watch the footage from the cover officer and put yourself in his shoes. None of my family would ever be stupid enough to answer the door to the police with a gun in their hand and then bring it to bear on the officers. I don't want to live in a world where good men are crucified by hindsight hypocrites for life and death decision they are forced to make in split seconds.
     
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    No, watch the footage, he brings it from behind his back to his side, raising it towards the contact officer.
     
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    He followed his training precisely, that's why it's a justified shoot.
     
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    I have NO DOUBT that YOU are sure that that PIG was Justified in this case, as with
    any other such case. And I have NO DOUBT that YOU would go to any lengths to twist
    time, space, logic and Fact in order to maintain that Justification, if only within
    that constrained myopia between your Ears and behind your Headlights, in order
    to retain that Justification, as YOUR personal Identity and World View seems to depend
    ................................................................................................................................................................................................. on it


    When Police act like Swine, and gun down a child who is running away from them,
    THEN they deserve to be treated with Contempt, and called out for what they are - "PIGs" !

    When Police act within the proper guidelines of what Police are suppose to do & stand for,
    THEN they deserve to be called and treated with Grateful Respect as Police Officers.

    As seen here:
    When Police Officers put a quick end to the Fascist Goonery, of Antifa or is it Proud Boy
    .......................................................................................................................................................................................................... Vigilantism

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/comments/iopb95/good_cop_gets_the_donut_on_this_one/

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    I've watched it from both angles several times. We've had this same conversation several times. We don't agree on what happened. I don't have blind loyalty to other people so I can believe that something is wrong in a specific instance without hating ALL people involved until the end of time. I think the officer was wrong and someone paid with his life for that mistake.
     
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    The VICTIM'S body is ANGLED towards putting the gun on the ground is CLEARLY VISIBLE prior to him being MURDERED by the KILLER cop.
     
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    The KILLER cop PANICKED instead of doing his job and there is NOTHING "heroic" about MURDERING the victim by SHOOTING them in the BACK! :eek:
     
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    Where does the "training precisely" teach cops to MURDER people by SHOOTING them in the BACK without justification? :eek:
     
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