So when Trump wins the popular vote on election day, but then Biden wins ...

Only because it serves your political agenda do you find it logical that the rural states have more weight in the electoral process.

And as I said, a President elected by the minority must lead with respect for the majority.

Trump openly despises all those who do not think like him. He demonizes, insults and marginalizes them.

No President can do this without paying a political price.

And that's what is about to happen.

 

Demand the FEC inspect the voter rolls at the Counties registrars offices and where they mailed the ballots. In order to perpetrate a fraud big enough for Biden to actually win, there would need to be massive amounts of people names tied to the same addresses.

More Than 80 Ballots Mailed to San Pedro Apartment

 

I don't disagree, and I hope you are right, and he does not get a second term. That doesn't change the facts of the election. Hillary won nothing.

 

Here is Fareed's Take on this subject:

 

Trump has known the seriousness of this pandemic since February.
A leader who cared about his people would have put a system in place to make voting by mail possible for anyone who wants it. Instead, he lied about the virus to protect the markets and has put obstacles in the way of mail-in voting.

 

What you're evading is that overvotes with clear voter intent -- checking the box and writing in the same name -- were legal votes under every version of Florida law. Those votes were rejected by the machines and never counted, not even once. Had they been counted, Gore would have won easily under any chad standard.

Nobody is arguing that you successfully cheated by stopping the counting of the legal votes that would have given Gore the win.

I agree that a small amount of carefully applied Republican cheating there was sufficient to swing the election. Given the Republican history of fraud and cheating, the conclusion would be that we need to keep a very close eye on them.

 

Congress certifies the election in January.

they will make sure all the votes are counted it doesn't matter what Fox news or CNN or NBC says.

Congress will make sure all of the absentee and mail votes are counted

 

Fox news are CNN can announce the winner in November but then Congress says in January sorry the winner is somebody else

 

The state officials responsible should get to explain to a grand jury why they should not be prosecuted for illegally and willfully disenfranchising their states' voters under color of law.

 

This is false. There is a record of the popular vote for every election. It is fairly simple to look up. Yes, the states elect the president through a completely undemocratic method but the fact remains that we, the people of the United States of America, did not willingly elect trump — nor do we back Republican policies.

 

You have NEVER voted in a NATIONAL vote PERIOD. There has NEVER been on in this country. You only vote in an election in YOUR state. Voting patterns are governed by the fact there are 51 separate and unique elections. Campaigns are geared for those elections not a national popular vote. Tallying up the results of all those various elections and claiming it is a true reflection of a popular vote is utter folly. Sorry you do not under our history, our system of government and most importantly our elections. Makes it all quite petty to claim otherwise.

The Electoral College ensures that the President is chosen by a constitutional majority. Candidates will be “moderated by the need to accommodate a variety of interests and viewpoints,” as Charles Kesler puts it. Candidates who focus too narrowly on a handful of states, regions, or metropolitan population centers will not be successful in the Electoral College...

[T]he issue is democracy with federalism (the Electoral College) versus democracy without federalism (a national popular vote). Either is democratic. Only the Electoral College preserves federalism, moderates ideological differences, and promotes national consensus in our choice of a chief executive.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2012/11/05/the-heritage-guide-to-the-electoral-college/

 

In this regard, "The majority" has never had a right to regain.

 

You say that like it matters - and yet, you know it does not.

 

Trump was elected by a majority.

Saved for posterity.

 

By design.
They have more weight in the senate, too.
By design.

Bill Clinton didn't.

 

Yes... back when the Democrats called him a racist for closing down travel from China, and told everyone to keep gathering in large groups like it was no big deal.

This already exists, in all 50 states.

 

You cannot demonstrate any of this to be true.

The USSC decided, 7-2, that FL election law did not provide equal protection for the voters in FL.
At that point, the election was over as it was impossible to provide a constitutional remedy because it was impossible to constitutionally conduct further recounts.

 

On the contrary, the tighter the election, the more it benefits Republicans. The Electoral College system benefits them greatly.

Passed an advance of 4 million votes (+3.5%) Biden has a 74% chance of winning. He would have only 46% if his lead was only 3%.

Currently, Trump has a deficit of about 7 million votes.

Therefore, his chances of winning are low (2%).

But hey, these are scientific analyses, and I know that science isn't really your thing with you Trumpters.

 

He respected enough of the majority to be re-elected.

This will not happen to Trump.

 

No they weren't they were spoiled ballots and by all the legal counts Bush won. The only attempts to cheat were by the Democrats and Gore who after losing in court then tried to get the Florida Supreme Court to change the rules of the election AFTER the election. It went to the Supreme Court which then sent it back to the Florida Court asking why they did it and under what authority. The FSU could give no basis and ruled the unconstitutional counting could continue. It went back to the SCOTUS which asked again and the FSU could give no Florida statute nor constitutional authority to grant Gore these selective recounts under shift standards and ended the counts. Bush won.

And there was no national popular vote then as now.

 

Only because it serves our form of government and the Constitution and balances the States. And I don't care that you don't like Trump which fact refutes nothing.

 

I am quite sure that Trump is going to lose the popular vote by at least five million votes probably more.

 

The Electoral College system gives more weight to the rural vote. This is an injustice to urban dwellers.

It doesn't serve democracy well.

Fortunately, the demographic weight of Republican voters has been steadily declining over the past 20 years. In addition, there's a strong migration of liberals to traditionally conservative states such as Texas and North Carolina.

Democrats are increasingly competitive in these states.

Biden leads a hair's breadth in North Carolina, while Trump won the state by 4% in 2016.

 

My guest is 7 million.

 

Strawmen and irrelevancies.

The fact remains, the people of this United States did not vote for this president.
You can try to deflect and run away from this fact all you want, but it remains a fact.